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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Cultist Sim dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:16 pm

M'lud, the defence would like to state for the record that the accused has entered into evidence exhibit 7a, a picture of a text message from his telephone that quite clearly shows the alleged victim stating, and I quote: "You are great!"

The defence rests, m'lud.


CASE... DISMISSED!

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Fade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:20 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:M'lud, the defence would like to state for the record that the accused has entered into evidence exhibit 7a, a picture of a text message from his telephone that quite clearly shows the alleged victim stating, and I quote: "You are great!"

The defence rests, m'lud.


CASE... DISMISSED!

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So you didn’t watch the video either then?

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:21 pm

Plz stop

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Fade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:25 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:Plz stop

Thought not :fp: :lol:

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by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:28 pm

Fade wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:Plz stop

Thought not :fp: :lol:


You don't seem to understand... it matters not one bit what the accused says or the evidence he proposes as he is the accused. He has zero credibility as his sole purpose is to exonerate himself.

I don't understand how this is an alien concept to you.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Lotus » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:36 pm

This place, strawberry floating hell. :lol: :fp:

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:38 pm

Lotus wrote:This place, strawberry floating hell. :lol: :fp:


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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:57 pm

twitter.com/betterthemask/status/1166757337954172928



Holy gooseberry fool. Meg Jayanth (writer of 80 Days and Heaven's Vault) with, an apparently reiterated claim that Alexis Kennedy (Failbetter games founder, developer of Cultist Simulator) of persistent sexual harassment.

strawberry float this one hits hard. But still.

strawberry float that guy.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Fade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:57 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
Fade wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:Plz stop

Thought not :fp: :lol:


You don't seem to understand... it matters not one bit what the accused says or the evidence he proposes as he is the accused. He has zero credibility as his sole purpose is to exonerate himself.

I don't understand how this is an alien concept to you.



Okay, well by that logic I could accuse you of sending me a death threat (with no evidence) and you wouldn't be able to provide evidence disproving me because you're the one I accused, is that what you're saying? You are saying any time ANYONE is accused of anything we should assume the person accusing them is telling the truth and the person being a accused is lying? Even when we step back and look at evidence from both sides?

I hope you're never on a strawberry floating Jury, Jesus.

How about you watch his video and form your own opinion? This is like debating about a film with someone who hasn't even seen it :fp:

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:58 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:

twitter.com/betterthemask/status/1166757337954172928



Holy gooseberry fool. Meg Jayanth (writer of 80 Days and Heaven's Vault) with, an apparently reiterated claim that Alexis Kennedy (Failbetter games founder, developer of Cultist Simulator) of persistent sexual harassment.

strawberry float this one hits hard. But still.

strawberry float that guy.


Just reposting this so we can all pretend Fade stopped replying. Genuinely affected by this one. strawberry float.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by jawafour » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:09 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:You don't seem to understand... it matters not one bit what the accused says or the evidence he proposes as he is the accused. He has zero credibility as his sole purpose is to exonerate himself.

I don't understand how this is an alien concept to you.


I'm surprised by this. Surely anyone can present evidence? I feel that the accused should be able to present their perspective. That doesn't mean dismissing the accusations, of course, but it perhaps brings an extra dimension to the incident. I'd struggle to accept the notion that one should not seek out all perspectives. This doesn't take away from the fact that any and all help, comfort and aid should be provided for the alleged victim.

I agree that any evidence - no matter who provides it - should be examine with a cautious eye, but are you saying that the accused's story should not be heard?

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Cultist Sim dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Cuttooth » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:13 pm

twitter.com/NightInTheWoods/status/1166778779756314625



This thread on the NITW team's decision to sever ties with Holowka is quite something. Good on them.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:15 pm

jawafour wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:You don't seem to understand... it matters not one bit what the accused says or the evidence he proposes as he is the accused. He has zero credibility as his sole purpose is to exonerate himself.

I don't understand how this is an alien concept to you.


I'm surprised by this. Surely anyone can present evidence? I feel that the accused should be able to present their perspective. That doesn't mean dismissing the accusations, of course, but it perhaps brings an extra dimension to the incident. I'd struggle to accept the notion that one should not seek out all perspectives. This doesn't take away from the fact that any and all help, comfort and aid should be provided for the alleged victim.

I agree that any evidence - no matter who provides it - should be examine with a cautious eye, but are you saying that the accused's story should not be heard?


I was responding directly to Fade, who is claiming the accused's evidence immediately alleviates him of any wrongdoing. Utterly.

Which is obviously batshit.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Fade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:21 pm

jawafour wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:You don't seem to understand... it matters not one bit what the accused says or the evidence he proposes as he is the accused. He has zero credibility as his sole purpose is to exonerate himself.

I don't understand how this is an alien concept to you.


I'm surprised by this. Surely anyone can present evidence? I feel that the accused should be able to present their perspective. That doesn't mean dismissing the accusations, of course, but it perhaps brings an extra dimension to the incident. I'd struggle to accept the notion that one should not seek out all perspectives. This doesn't take away from the fact that any and all help, comfort and aid should be provided for the alleged victim.

I agree that any evidence - no matter who provides it - should be examine with a cautious eye, but are you saying that the accused's story should not be heard?

This is exactly my point. Taf is acting like the accusers never have anything to gain from the situation so they'd have no reason to lie.

If he'd watched the video he would know both accusers pinned donation links on their Twitter pages for no other reason than for people to send them money, not for charity, PayPal directly to them. One even directly tweeted to the other saying they should post a donation link as the story was blowing up. The accuser with the chat logs was also a massive fan of game grumps who she managed to get in contact with through this chain of events.

I'm not saying the accused are always innocent, far from it, I wouldn't be surprised if all of these recent accusations turn out to be true. I'm just saying if somebody accuses somebody of something without evidence you need to wait for evidence to present itself before you believe them. Innocent until proven guilty exists for a reason.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:23 pm

Fade wrote:This is exactly my point. Taf is acting like the accusers never have anything to gain from the situation so they'd have no reason to lie.


I know I shouldn't reasons to this, I know I shouldn't but strawberry float.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Fade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:25 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
jawafour wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:You don't seem to understand... it matters not one bit what the accused says or the evidence he proposes as he is the accused. He has zero credibility as his sole purpose is to exonerate himself.

I don't understand how this is an alien concept to you.


I'm surprised by this. Surely anyone can present evidence? I feel that the accused should be able to present their perspective. That doesn't mean dismissing the accusations, of course, but it perhaps brings an extra dimension to the incident. I'd struggle to accept the notion that one should not seek out all perspectives. This doesn't take away from the fact that any and all help, comfort and aid should be provided for the alleged victim.

I agree that any evidence - no matter who provides it - should be examine with a cautious eye, but are you saying that the accused's story should not be heard?


I was responding directly to Fade, who is claiming the accused's evidence immediately alleviates him of any wrongdoing. Utterly.

Which is obviously batshit.

That's not what I said though is it. I was talking about some very specific accusations that were made. The accuser provided no evidence to back them up and out right lied in other cases.

Jared provided evidence disproving her accusations, she could easily post her chat log if he is indeed manipulating screenshots or whatever.

I already said it was seedy having a send me nudes Tumblr. The only thing I am talking about is the accasiono made against him without evidence that he proved wrong with evidence.

I'm not talking about any of the other gooseberry fool he did, nor am I saying he did nothing wrong.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Fade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:33 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
Fade wrote:This is exactly my point. Taf is acting like the accusers never have anything to gain from the situation so they'd have no reason to lie.


I know I shouldn't reasons to this, I know I shouldn't but strawberry float.

strawberry float.

Dude, as strawberry floated up as it is there are People out there who will make up gooseberry fool or try and manipulate situations.

When a friend was trying to kill herself she threatened to call the police and tell them I was beating her up because I wouldn't let her leave her flat and go and jump in front of a train.

MOST people won't do that and are good people and even if they do it might be because they are mentally ill, but even if only 1% of people lie it's a good idea to wait for the evidence to present itself before jumping down people's throats. That's all I'm saying okay?

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Gears 4 dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by jawafour » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:34 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:I was responding directly to Fade, who is claiming the accused's evidence immediately alleviates him of any wrongdoing. Utterly...

I've re-read Fade's posts and I feel he was indicating that ProJared had raised some evidence worth taking a look at. Yes, there is a possibility that it could all have been faked but - having watched the video - it seems unlikely.

It would appear prudent to seek out evidence from all people involved rather than foregoing some of it. That's not denying the incident nor ignoring the need for support and aid to be provided to the alleged victim, of course.

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Cultist Sim dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Tafdolphin » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:37 pm

I'm checking out of this now. Intolerable jawa has arrived on his Centrist steed and joined Fade's apologist parade.

Nope. Sorry.

Believe women ffs

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PostRe: Night In The Woods dev, Skyrim composer, Cultist Sim dev all accused of sexual assault/rape
by Fade » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:45 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:I'm checking out of this now. Intolerable jawa has arrived on his Centrist steed and joined Fade's apologist parade.

Nope. Sorry.

Believe women ffs

I never said you shouldn't believe women. I made it a point about saying even if it's only 1% of cases you should still wait for evidence.

I believe 99% of women are telling the truth when they make accusations like this. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't look at the evidence. If we didn't do that our justice system would be pretty strawberry floated up.

You honestly seem like this is a very personal subject so I apologise if that's the case.

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