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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:40 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:
ITSMILNER wrote:Might be worth waiting on Majora just in case they do bring it to Switch? Unless you want specifically want it for 3DS of course


I was actually thinking this, and I've waited this long so I can hold off a bit longer to see of MM and OOT get moved across.

I'm not sure they will really, that was a lot more than a port, it was a full on remake. The touch controls were fairly integral and the art style definitely seemed optimised for the 3ds hardware. I mean, the textures weren't amazing but it definitely had the resolution of that system in mind, not unlike the n64 original had to. I really enjoyed it on the system anyway and it looked great at solid 60fps in 3D. In case anyone forgot how that worked, that's 120fps on a tiny handheld system with just 2 ARM cores and a pretty rudimentary even at the the time graphics chip (similar to a budget smartphone). If you don't like 3D or have a 2DS then it enables anti aliasing which at times you'd think you're looking at something like a game cube game but with much better colour depth and effects like specularity and bloom/HDR.

To make it worthwhile they'd probably need to re do all the assets for a third time in something like 4-6x the resolution, extrapolating and creating even more detail from the original games, unless they were made that way (might have the foresight these days but it was outsourced to Grezzo and I presume they had a limited budget). The n64 to 3DS jump simply made sense for this, although I suppose it might have been possible on the DS (they probably tried it) seeing as Mario 64 DS was a fairly good port (that was one do the first n64 games though and the original hardware sometimes struggled with Ocarina, plus MM needed the expansion pack).

It's worth picking up if like me you've never played the game for sure. Took me a while to get through some of the more opaque sections, I was far from truly completing it (didn't get the fierce diety mask) and I did use a guide when I was stuck.

The 3DS is a whole different character of system to the Switch and I'll always have a soft spot for it. I feel Nintendo were probably thinking the same, as just like the GBA and the DS, they were talking along those "third pillar" line. In reality Switch is obviously the successor seeing as they have ended manufacture and development.

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PostRe: Nintendo 3DS Chat
by speedboatchase » Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:13 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:Playing solo, and I think that's what put me off last time, whereas now it's more like a puzzle game playing in that style.

After getting star fox, I think I'll finally get majoras mask (never played it) and maybe pilotwings resort (Not played it either). Both are pretty expensive, so I think I may just go digital on those.


I picked up Pilotwings on Cex a few months back for £4. Great little title, although being a launch release it has insanely powerful 3D effect :datass:

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PostRe: Nintendo 3DS Chat
by kerr9000 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 3:45 pm

I never got that into Pilotwings Resort but I think its because im one of those moany old buggers who thinks the SNES Pilot wings was the perfect experience and its all been downhill since then

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by Green Gecko » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:53 pm

Wasn't pilotwings resort basically a flying bit of wii sports resort with an old brand slapped on it.

Interesting to note however that pilotwings itself is a rebanded arcade title.

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by Lime » Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:56 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:Playing solo, and I think that's what put me off last time, whereas now it's more like a puzzle game playing in that style.

After getting star fox, I think I'll finally get majoras mask (never played it) and maybe pilotwings resort (Not played it either). Both are pretty expensive, so I think I may just go digital on those.


Pilotwings Resort is only £4 at CEX if you don't mind a copy with unidentifiable stains on it.


EDIT: sorry speedboatchase, I missed your post stating this exact fact!

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PostRe: Nintendo 3DS Chat
by shy guy 64 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:33 pm

Green Gecko wrote:Interesting to note however that pilotwings itself is a rebanded arcade title.


you sure about that?

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PostRe: Nintendo 3DS Chat
by Green Gecko » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:57 pm

shy guy 64 wrote:
Green Gecko wrote:Interesting to note however that pilotwings itself is a rebanded arcade title.


you sure about that?

Whoops, I fact checked myself and got confused somewhere.

The arcade game I'm referring to made by Nintendo is Sky Skipper which is a quite different game however it does feature the red biplane and a script style font for the name of the game.

The alpha games uncovered in the Nintendo gigaleak included Dragonfly, which is understood to be a prototype pilotwings and test for Mode 7 (the SNES graphics mode for Mario kart, f zero, and pilotwings etc). I think this includes the tileset for the logo as well which is similar to both Sky Skipper and Pilotwings.

So one could trace a general lineage from Sky Skipper > Dragonfly > Pilotwings > Pilotwings 64 > Pilotwings Resort, arguably all variations on the "flying a byplane" thing. In earlier days Nintendo tended to start with different characters and objects drawn by artists (as they didn't really have any programmers), the rough game concept/idea and then go from there. Depending on whatever they thought would be fun to play.

For example Mario (or luigi) is the common thread between almost all Mario games even if originally he was a Donkey Kong character.

In this case someone at Nintendo fixated on a red biplane, which is quite a specific thing so it's easy to draw comparisons.

Interestingly however their approach has changed;- splatoon for example started out as cubes of tofu firing tofu at each other and they introduced the squid mechanic and inklings later :toot:

So they focused on the mechanics first without any real art and worked out of that.

I guess Nintendo realise art is time consuming and expensive whereas testing whether a game concept is fun shouldn't be.

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PostRe: Nintendo 3DS Chat
by kerr9000 » Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:57 pm

Grabbed Bravely Default Second Layer from a pawn store today for £8. Been playing the odd bit of Fire Emblem Birthright recently kind of purposely been trying to slowly go through it.

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by ITSMILNER » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:08 pm

Finally got round to putting time into WarioWare Gold last night, it’s a lot of crazy fun isn’t it :lol: some of the micro games genuinely make me laugh out loud with how ridiculous they can be.

I actually found my copy of WarioWare D.I.Y as well so I’ll have to give that a go at some point.

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by jawaX » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:16 pm

kerr9000 wrote:Grabbed Bravely Default Second Layer from a pawn store today for £8. Been playing the odd bit of Fire Emblem Birthright recently kind of purposely been trying to slowly go through it.

Bravely Default Second was a great pick-up for that price, kerr. Good to hear that you're playing Fire Emblem, too - it's a series that I've yet to try.

ITSMILNER wrote:Finally got round to putting time into WarioWare Gold last night, it’s a lot of crazy fun isn’t it :lol: some of the micro games genuinely make me laugh out loud with how ridiculous they can be...

I've never played a Warioware game and they do look pretty crazy, IM! It seems like they're good for fast-action, silly fun.

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PostRe: Nintendo 3DS Chat
by kerr9000 » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:21 pm

jawaX wrote:
kerr9000 wrote:Grabbed Bravely Default Second Layer from a pawn store today for £8. Been playing the odd bit of Fire Emblem Birthright recently kind of purposely been trying to slowly go through it.

Bravely Default Second was a great pick-up for that price, kerr. Good to hear that you're playing Fire Emblem, too - it's a series that I've yet to try.

ITSMILNER wrote:Finally got round to putting time into WarioWare Gold last night, it’s a lot of crazy fun isn’t it :lol: some of the micro games genuinely make me laugh out loud with how ridiculous they can be...

I've never played a Warioware game and they do look pretty crazy, IM! It seems like they're good for fast-action, silly fun.


Look for WarioWare gold cheap and quick chap, it was super super cheap at one point and I think its a climber if if hasnt already

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PostRe: Nintendo 3DS Chat
by Squinty » Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:39 pm

I have a copy of Wario ware. I should get on that.

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by The Doom Spoon » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:12 pm

It's lovely to see the 3DS chat up and running again! :wub:

Yea a lot of games are on the rise! I want to pick up Monster Hunter Stories but unwilling to pay the current going rate for it. I got a few other games on my hit list too, Ever Oasis, Yo-Kai Watch, Samus Returns and Link Between Worlds.

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by kazanova_Frankenstein » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:43 pm

ITSMILNER wrote:Finally got round to putting time into WarioWare Gold last night, it’s a lot of crazy fun isn’t it :lol: some of the micro games genuinely make me laugh out loud with how ridiculous they can be.

I actually found my copy of WarioWare D.I.Y as well so I’ll have to give that a go at some point.


I started this a week ago. Brilliant fun. Hope the next game caters to single player audiences as well.

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by kazanova_Frankenstein » Wed Jul 07, 2021 7:43 pm

The Doom Spoon wrote:It's lovely to see the 3DS chat up and running again! :wub:

Yea a lot of games are on the rise! I want to pick up Monster Hunter Stories but unwilling to pay the current going rate for it. I got a few other games on my hit list too, Ever Oasis, Yo-Kai Watch, Samus Returns and Link Between Worlds.


Ever Oasis is £12 at Argos.

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by ITSMILNER » Wed Jul 07, 2021 8:53 pm

kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:
The Doom Spoon wrote:It's lovely to see the 3DS chat up and running again! :wub:

Yea a lot of games are on the rise! I want to pick up Monster Hunter Stories but unwilling to pay the current going rate for it. I got a few other games on my hit list too, Ever Oasis, Yo-Kai Watch, Samus Returns and Link Between Worlds.


Ever Oasis is £12 at Argos.


Always worth checking Argos, I grabbed a load of 3DS games from them last year for cheap. I got Monster Hunter Stories for £12 and a few others for a few quid

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by The Doom Spoon » Wed Jul 07, 2021 9:33 pm

ITSMILNER wrote:
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:
The Doom Spoon wrote:It's lovely to see the 3DS chat up and running again! :wub:

Yea a lot of games are on the rise! I want to pick up Monster Hunter Stories but unwilling to pay the current going rate for it. I got a few other games on my hit list too, Ever Oasis, Yo-Kai Watch, Samus Returns and Link Between Worlds.


Ever Oasis is £12 at Argos.


Always worth checking Argos, I grabbed a load of 3DS games from them last year for cheap. I got Monster Hunter Stories for £12 and a few others for a few quid


Oh awesome I'll go check it out!

MHS for £12 is ridiculously cheap! 2nd hand it goes for £50+!

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by ITSMILNER » Wed Jul 07, 2021 10:07 pm

The Doom Spoon wrote:
ITSMILNER wrote:
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:
The Doom Spoon wrote:It's lovely to see the 3DS chat up and running again! :wub:

Yea a lot of games are on the rise! I want to pick up Monster Hunter Stories but unwilling to pay the current going rate for it. I got a few other games on my hit list too, Ever Oasis, Yo-Kai Watch, Samus Returns and Link Between Worlds.


Ever Oasis is £12 at Argos.


Always worth checking Argos, I grabbed a load of 3DS games from them last year for cheap. I got Monster Hunter Stories for £12 and a few others for a few quid


Oh awesome I'll go check it out!

MHS for £12 is ridiculously cheap! 2nd hand it goes for £50+!


I think it was last July I got it for that price, Stoke of luck really as they sold out pretty quick.

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by Squinty » Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:07 pm

The Doom Spoon wrote:It's lovely to see the 3DS chat up and running again! :wub:

Yea a lot of games are on the rise! I want to pick up Monster Hunter Stories but unwilling to pay the current going rate for it. I got a few other games on my hit list too, Ever Oasis, Yo-Kai Watch, Samus Returns and Link Between Worlds.


Get on this right now!

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by kazanova_Frankenstein » Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:48 am

Squinty wrote:
The Doom Spoon wrote:It's lovely to see the 3DS chat up and running again! :wub:

Yea a lot of games are on the rise! I want to pick up Monster Hunter Stories but unwilling to pay the current going rate for it. I got a few other games on my hit list too, Ever Oasis, Yo-Kai Watch, Samus Returns and Link Between Worlds.


Get on this right now!


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