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by Mafro » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:40 am

Skyward Sword in HD, 60fps and improved motion controls is an insta-buy. Looking forward to seeing what QoL changes they make to it.

I'll definitely be getting Twilight Princess as well if that's 60fps as well. Never completed Wind Waker HD after getting bored about half way through so I won't be getting that again.

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by jawa2 » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:48 am

Jazzem wrote:...Famicom Detective Club in particular I'm super happy for, that's a lovely bit of Nintendo history to finally get localised!...

That did look intriguing, Jazzem - it's a game(s) that I wasn't familiar with and it looks like being fun.

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jawa2 wrote:Skyward Sword, though! Yes! I'm a bit grumbly about it being £49.99 but when I recall that fun experience of flying around Skyloft and holding the Wii Remote up high as if I was yelling "By the power of Greyskull!"... good times :-)

Scaldera though...


Scaldera. Scaldera :x .

But it did happen! Back in 2014!

Pics gone from that post because tinypic imploded... but here they are again! Back from Oxtober 2014!

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PostRe: Nintendo Direct - 17/02/21 @ 10pm - 50 mins long focusing on Nintendo Switch games for H1 2021
by Jazzem » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:51 am

jawa2 wrote:
Jazzem wrote:...Famicom Detective Club in particular I'm super happy for, that's a lovely bit of Nintendo history to finally get localised!...

That did look intriguing, Jazzem - it's a game(s) that I wasn't familiar with and it looks like being fun.


Aye! Nice to think it'll get a bit more worldwide attention :) So nice that we're more likely to get gems like that localised these days

EDIT: Also bahaha jawa you legend, love it when you get creative 'n goofy like that :D :wub:

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PostRe: Nintendo Direct - 17/02/21 @ 10pm - 50 mins long focusing on Nintendo Switch games for H1 2021
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:51 am

:lol: Thats great!

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by kuliand » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:54 am

Robbo-92 wrote:Sounds like I didn’t miss much :( Still, I’ll watch it when I can this afternoon but sounds like such a missed opportunity after so long without a proper direct. I’ll definitely be getting Skyward Sword HD though.


I still felt it was worth watching and I like the directs to see what is coming.

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by Captain Kinopio » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:57 am

Victor Mildew wrote:Arghhhhh just make some new stuff. I'm sick of being sold the same old stuff over and over and over.

And I know I dont have to buy it, and I don't, which means I have nothing new as it's all just rehashed stuff constantly.


I think what we’re seeing now is Nintendo capitalising on more traditional gamers coming back to them now that have been away for the last 5-10 years. The Wii was a massive success but most had completely abandoned it by the time SS came out and the WiiU was an unmitigated disaster and there treatment of anyone who owned one is basically, haha strawberry float you buy our gooseberry fool again.

I mean it makes good business sense, so on the one hand you can’t blame them for it and chumps like me will put up with it because I can’t get their main line quality stuff elsewhere. Back in my mid 20s I knew maybe 2 or 3 people that owned Nintendo consoles or handhelds. With the Switch its double figures easily and these people are buying all the rehashed crap because they didn’t get it first time round.

I have 7 games for the Switch (one of which is BOTW which I played first on WiiU so it shouldn’t really count). If I hadn’t owned a WiiU it would probably be double that.

I think what Parksey says it right, Nintendo is just massively massively conservative and doesn’t want to spend money if the return isn’t worth it. I don’t think they ever coped with the switch to HD properly, they never upscale their resources so now their 3 main teams are basically only capable of putting out 1 game every 3-4 years. Normally I guess you’d have had a Retro game on Switch already and if they weren’t so strawberry floating useless MP4 would be almost ready now too and I supposed better management / oversight / resources would probably have helped Bayonetta get done.

The WiiU was strawberry floating dire, but at least Iwata was embarrassed enough about it to feel some sense of obligation to the people who bought it and crack the whip to churn out games; Nintendo Land, Game and Wario, NSMBU, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D World, Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Captain Toad, Tropical Freeze, Hyrule Warriors, MK8, Smash, Sports Club, Splatoon, Mario Maker, Colour Splash, BOTW.

I mean I thought it was piss poor at the time but strawberry float I would be absolutely ecstatic if we could have a few years like that on Switch.

I think Capcom has basically supplanted Nintendo as the premier Japanese development studio in my mind now and considering their resources are microscopic in comparison and they actually work with and aim to please their fans rather than mercilessly milk them dry I’m glad to be on board for it.

But hey the Switch prints money, well strawberry floating done. Guess I’ll hang on to it and enjoy the gimped versions of BOTW2 and MP4 that invariably get optimised for the inevitable Pro or successor.

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PostRe: Nintendo Direct - 17/02/21 @ 10pm - 50 mins long focusing on Nintendo Switch games for H1 2021
by Clarkman » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:13 pm

Reality check on original content created by first party Nintendo developers in the Wii U era (2012-2016) and the four years since the Switch's 2017 launch.

Original (non-remakes/remasters/ports) Wii U first party exclusives that are rated 80% or higher on Metacritic:

1. Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild
2. Mario 3D World
3. Mario Kart 8
4. DK Tropical Freeze
5. Splatoon
6. Bayonetta 2
7. Captain Toad
8. Super Mario Maker
9. Pikmin 3
10. Xenoblade Chronicles X
11. New Super Mario Bros U
12. Pushmo World

Average of 3 original, quality games a year.

Original (non-remakes/remasters/ports) Switch first party exclusives that are rated 80% or higher on Metacritic (games in bold are direct sequels using near identical engines):

1. Mario Odyssey
2. Smash Bros Ultimate
3. Animal Crossing New Horizons
4. Fire Emblem Three Houses
5. Super Mario Maker 2
6. Luigi's Mansion 3
7. Ring Fit Adventure
8. Splatoon 2
9. Xenoblade Chronicles 2
10. Clubhouse Games 51 Worldwide Classics

That's an average of 2.5 original, quality games a year.

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by Tomous » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:17 pm

The issue is clearly resource in my opinion. They haven't scaled up enough for the HD era. Whether that's because of a concern over quality reducing or financial risk I don't know.

They need more studios like Next Level Games working on the IPs they're not currently investing.

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by ITSMILNER » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:18 pm

Clarkman wrote:Reality check on original content created by first party Nintendo developers in the Wii U era (2012-2016) and the four years since the Switch's 2017 launch.

Original (non-remakes/remasters/ports) Wii U first party exclusives that are rated 80% or higher on Metacritic:

1. Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild
2. Mario 3D World
3. Mario Kart 8
4. DK Tropical Freeze
5. Splatoon
6. Bayonetta 2
7. Captain Toad
8. Super Mario Maker
9. Pikmin 3
10. Xenoblade Chronicles X
11. New Super Mario Bros U
12. Pushmo World

Average of 3 original, quality games a year.

Original (non-remakes/remasters/ports) Switch first party exclusives that are rated 80% or higher on Metacritic (games in bold are direct sequels using near identical engines):

1. Mario Odyssey
2. Smash Bros Ultimate
3. Animal Crossing New Horizons
4. Fire Emblem Three Houses
5. Super Mario Maker 2
6. Luigi's Mansion 3
7. Ring Fit Adventure
8. Splatoon 2
9. Xenoblade Chronicles 2
10. Clubhouse Games 51 Worldwide Classics

That's an average of 2.5 original, quality games a year.


Plus, consider Nintendo were also supporting 3DS during the Wii U era as well

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PostRe: Nintendo Direct - 17/02/21 @ 10pm - 50 mins long focusing on Nintendo Switch games for H1 2021
by Balladeer » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:18 pm

That’s not including 3DS games I presume? The Switch is an entire generation for Nintendo, taking the place of two machines.

BotW should be associated with both IMO, regardless of when precisely it was produced. Also regardless of engine XC2 felt very different to XCX.

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PostRe: Nintendo Direct - 17/02/21 @ 10pm - 50 mins long focusing on Nintendo Switch games for H1 2021
by Tomous » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:21 pm

Clarkman wrote:Reality check on original content created by first party Nintendo developers in the Wii U era (2012-2016) and the four years since the Switch's 2017 launch.

Original (non-remakes/remasters/ports) Wii U first party exclusives that are rated 80% or higher on Metacritic:

1. Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild
2. Mario 3D World
3. Mario Kart 8
4. DK Tropical Freeze
5. Splatoon
6. Bayonetta 2
7. Captain Toad
8. Super Mario Maker
9. Pikmin 3
10. Xenoblade Chronicles X
11. New Super Mario Bros U
12. Pushmo World

Average of 3 original, quality games a year.

Original (non-remakes/remasters/ports) Switch first party exclusives that are rated 80% or higher on Metacritic (games in bold are direct sequels using near identical engines):

1. Mario Odyssey
2. Smash Bros Ultimate
3. Animal Crossing New Horizons
4. Fire Emblem Three Houses
5. Super Mario Maker 2
6. Luigi's Mansion 3
7. Ring Fit Adventure
8. Splatoon 2
9. Xenoblade Chronicles 2
10. Clubhouse Games 51 Worldwide Classics

That's an average of 2.5 original, quality games a year.


Surely if you include Bayonetta 2 you should include Astral Chain on Switch. I'd throw in Mario x Rabbids too if we're counting Platinum.

There has also been high quality DLC on Switch like Octo Expansion in Splatoon and Torna for Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

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by Clarkman » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:25 pm

Balladeer wrote:That’s not including 3DS games I presume? The Switch is an entire generation for Nintendo, taking the place of two machines.


A quick count of 3DS games suggests 17 80%+ original first party games released between 2012 - 2016, and another 2 in 2017.

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by Jenuall » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:31 pm

Those dates are wrong, you're looking at more like 5 years of Wii U there.

I think even though it's easy to get down on the Switch release cycle at times like this the reality is that they have produced a good number of excellent games for the machine, it's just that we're in something of a drought at the moment

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by The Watching Artist » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:39 pm

Must admit I do find the obsession some have with these anniversarys is very weird. Please huge company exploit the calander to take my money and then I demand you do it again in 5 more years.

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by The Watching Artist » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:42 pm

Tomous wrote:Surely if you include Bayonetta 2 you should include Astral Chain on Switch. I'd throw in Mario x Rabbids too if we're counting Platinum.

There has also been high quality DLC on Switch like Octo Expansion in Splatoon and Torna for Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

Also the actual best Wii U game would like to say hi

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by Rubix » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:57 pm

A lot of people complaining but I don't expect massive of shock announcements at every Nintendo Direct and lets remember we are still in a pandemic so I am sure progress of games are slow.

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by tomvek » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:57 pm

The speed golf mode in the new Mario golf game :lol:

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by Balladeer » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:59 pm

Jenuall wrote:I think even though it's easy to get down on the Switch release cycle at times like this the reality is that they have produced a good number of excellent games for the machine, it's just that we're in something of a drought at the moment

I agree and disagree.

I agree that we actually have a pretty good machine here. Granted, this is maybe not true if you had a Wii U and a PS/XBox and play your indies somewhere else. Otherwise, we’re just closing in on its fourth year and I could give you a top 25 of great games on it, and I’m a picky bastard! That also only includes the one Wii U title and one previous PlayStation retail title. There are a lot of really good games if you look for them!

I disagree that Nintendo themselves have produced them. Clarkman’s maths is flawed and Metacritic is not the be-all and end-all, but it does in general show that the number of great Nintendo games on Switch is lousy compared to last generation. We’ve had two drought years out of four, and it looks like we’re heading into a third. Without indie support and Wii U ports the Switch looks crap. Of course, you could say that any PlayStation or XBox looks crap if you remove its third-party support - it’s just, that’s not always felt true for a Nintendo generation, and right now it does.

The Switch is the best console I’ve owned, but not so much of that is Nintendo’s doing.

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by Mafro » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:02 pm

These are probably the worst reactions I've seen towards a Nintendo Direct. So much anger :lol:

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by DarkRula » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:06 pm

Yeah, almost as if people were expecting a megaton of bombshells to explode out of those fifty minutes, with every single one of them appealing to them.

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