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Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:36 pm
by Jenuall
The cost justification had already been made several times in this thread. Just look up craft components on Amazon, this stuff isn't cheap.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:46 pm
by Rex Kramer
I think the more difficult one to justify the cost is the robot kit. In my mind, it needs to be a decent length (and decent) game packed in to justify the price tag.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:46 pm
by Rocsteady
OrangeRakoon wrote:If the software comes on a cart then we've got the switch physical tax to consider (there are numerous reports about how expensive those carts are).

For the physical side of the product, I think you can compare it to things like this.

The variety pack comes with like 5 different builds right? I reckon it comes out as expensive (of course there is Nintendo tax), but not "massively" inflated.

Also lol at this I found on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Paperpod-Cardb ... 008M541HI/

(Here are some more cardboard models at not the cheapest prices: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Leolandia/b/?i ... =Leolandia )

The cart cost isn't the strongest of arguments as otherwise downloadable versions on Switch would be significantly cheaper than the physical ones, which they aren't. Which drives me mental, it's absolute bullshit. Admittedly this is a total different argument.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:50 pm
by OrangeRKN
Rocksleddy wrote:The cart cost isn't the strongest of arguments as otherwise downloadable versions on Switch would be significantly cheaper than the physical ones, which they aren't. Which drives me mental, it's absolute bullshit. Admittedly this is a total different argument.


I think the carts are legit expensive to produce, and then they are just profiteering off digital sales. It's partly why I got physical whenever I can.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:55 pm
by Karl_
Peter Crisp wrote:I'm unsure why I'm getting such a negative reaction for simply saying I think it's expensive.

I dunno if the reaction's really negative, I think people are just saying that you might have missed some contributing factors to the expense.

When you factor in the cost of making the game and the cost of the cart, you're probably looking at a market value of about £30 for that bit. Then a build-your-own-toy kit - and this one seems to be well on the upper end of quality of these kits, I mean, check out that castle OR linked :lol: - is typically about £20.

So yeah, it is 'expensive' in the sense it could probably be a tenner cheaper and still be solidly profitable. But I don't think your call of £25 is very realistic, admittedly I'm guessing a bit but I think at £25 neither Nintendo nor the shops selling it would be making much in the way of profit.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:58 pm
by Karl_
Saying that...
Rocksleddy wrote:The cart cost isn't the strongest of arguments as otherwise downloadable versions on Switch would be significantly cheaper than the physical ones, which they aren't. Which drives me mental, it's absolute bullshit. Admittedly this is a total different argument.

This is a 100% justified complaint about Nintendo pricing. They still just don't 'get' online, and it's insane that they sell stuff on the e-shop for essentially the high street RRP. Literally mental, particularly as on the Switch you're definitely having to buy memory cards if you use the e-shop regularly, which actually makes the e-shop option work out as marginally more expensive.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:08 pm
by Rocsteady
Totally agree. I honestly hate it, sure Zelda BOTW is something laughable like £57 on the e-shop. Definitely more expensive than I've seen in shops anyway. Try to avoid digital wherever possible for that reason. Plus you can trade in physical so works out much cheaper if you're that way inclined.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:16 pm
by OrangeRKN
The only reasons Sony and MS are better is because of their more generous sales - the standard pricing on their digital stores is equally ridiculous. £60 is standard for new games.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:54 pm
by Rocsteady
Yeah, that's mental too. I don't understand where the incentive is to go digital.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:14 pm
by jawafour
Orange is spot-on; MS and Sony sell new games on their Stores at equally high price points, although they are far quicker to later run discounts than Nintendo is. But, yeah, this aspect is probably outside the scope of this thread :) .

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:58 pm
by Clarkman
Managed to get the song from the bloody trailer stuck in my head all day, despite having only watched it twice.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:18 am
by Green Gecko
jawafour wrote:Orange is spot-on; MS and Sony sell new games on their Stores at equally high price points, although they are far quicker to later run discounts than Nintendo is. But, yeah, this aspect is probably outside the scope of this thread :) .

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Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:54 am
by HSH28
Karl wrote:Saying that...
Rocksleddy wrote:The cart cost isn't the strongest of arguments as otherwise downloadable versions on Switch would be significantly cheaper than the physical ones, which they aren't. Which drives me mental, it's absolute bullshit. Admittedly this is a total different argument.

This is a 100% justified complaint about Nintendo pricing. They still just don't 'get' online, and it's insane that they sell stuff on the e-shop for essentially the high street RRP. Literally mental, particularly as on the Switch you're definitely having to buy memory cards if you use the e-shop regularly, which actually makes the e-shop option work out as marginally more expensive.


Isn't the argument that if they undercut physical releases on digital platforms then physical retailers would refuse to sell their games?

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:42 am
by still

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:08 pm
by Gemini73
HSH28 wrote:
Karl wrote:Saying that...
Rocksleddy wrote:The cart cost isn't the strongest of arguments as otherwise downloadable versions on Switch would be significantly cheaper than the physical ones, which they aren't. Which drives me mental, it's absolute bullshit. Admittedly this is a total different argument.

This is a 100% justified complaint about Nintendo pricing. They still just don't 'get' online, and it's insane that they sell stuff on the e-shop for essentially the high street RRP. Literally mental, particularly as on the Switch you're definitely having to buy memory cards if you use the e-shop regularly, which actually makes the e-shop option work out as marginally more expensive.


Isn't the argument that if they undercut physical releases on digital platforms then physical retailers would refuse to sell their games?


At one time maybe that train of thought had a part to play, but I don't think it holds much water these days. Console pricing of digital vs physical is all over the shop and places like Game, who are struggling, are not really in a position to make demands in today's market. Digital games buying, even at full price, is on the rise so Game either stock new releases and go up against digital even when they're cheaper, or lose potential sales.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:05 pm
by Rex Kramer
One thing that just struck me, doesn't Yoshi on the Switch have some kind of cardboard theme?

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:14 pm
by Tomous
Rex Kramer wrote:One thing that just struck me, doesn't Yoshi on the Switch have some kind of cardboard theme?


Yep it does. The levels have a cardboard diaroma thing going on.

However, as it’s being made by Good Feel, and Nintendo seem to be making efforts to make Labo a separate thing, I can’t see it having a connection.

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:18 pm
by jawafour
I wonder if any future toy-con may have a feature to make use of amiibo? Building on Rex's idea of Yoshi cardboard, supposing you could get some kind of Woolly World diarama toy-con that had extra features if you popped a Woolly Yoshi amiibo onto the joy-con?

If it takes off in popularity, it could be amazing where Labo goes!

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:17 pm
by jawafour
Some folk have odd reactions to Labo. Just looking over at Retro Collect and someone is saying that Labo is "Amiibos made of card" :fp: :lol: .

Re: Nintendo Labo | Make, Play & Discover on Nintendo Switch

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:24 pm
by KjGarly
Cancelled my Amazon pre-order to re-order using the code BIGTHANKS to get £10 knocked off (can be used for anything over £50 and is valid till tomorrow I think - thanks HotUKDeals!)