Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996

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PostNintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by KK » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:22 pm

Nintendo Takes Down Scans Of 1996 Super Mario 64 Strategy Guide

The book was never sold in the West, and has not been commercially available for decades

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Good morning, and welcome to what feels like the 1097th episode of “Nintendo Gets Some Cool gooseberry fool Taken Off The Internet.” Only this time we’re not even talking about a tribute game or piece of fan art, but a harmless old book.

Last week we shared some images of the Super Mario 64 Complete Clear Guide Book, a tome released in Japan alongside the game, that was notable for the fact that—instead of just telling players where to go—a series of incredible real-world dioramas were commissioned to serve as 3D maps. It was cool, we all enjoyed it.

To be clear, this book was released in 1996. In Japan. It was never released in the West, has never been released anywhere since, and has not been commercially available for decades. The only way you can purchase a copy, if you have the cash, is to spend hundreds on one via resale on eBay or Yahoo, from which Nintendo wouldn’t see any proceeds. Oh, and also these scans weren’t making anyone a cent.

It would have been the easiest thing in the world for Nintendo to leave this be, to let Mario fans enjoy this thing they never had the chance to enjoy before. Having high-quality scans uploaded to the public domain wasn’t just for recreation, either; it was preserving the book’s contents and making them publicly accessible long after the opportunity to purchase the book directly had disappeared.

But nope! Nintendo of America sent a takedown notice earlier today to the Internet Archive, where the scans were being hosted, who then passed it into the scan’s uploader, Comfort Food Video Games. CFVG sent me this statement after the takedown which pretty much sums the whole situation up:

Sadly archive.org sent me their usual takedown notice email telling me Nintendo of America challenged the copyright of the scan and it was removed. Frankly I’d love to challenge the legitimacy of that and how Nintendo of America would have anything to do with a Nintendo of Japan licensed Gem Books guide from 1995 but I can’t really fight the Nintendo legal team here. It’s incredibly disappointing.

While I fully understand protecting one’s IP and copyrights I didn’t think I was hurting anyone by scanning and uploading a 27 year old guide that is extremely out of print. Truthfully I think it helps Nintendo while only hurting the people selling this guide for literal hundreds of dollars. All I wanted to do was spread my love of this incredible guide and to a larger extent my love for the company.

I’m a rookie to the video game preservation scene but I can’t think of anything more depressing than how it’s a bunch of hard working people spending their free time and money painstakingly archiving and preserving history while major corporations like Nintendo are doing nothing to help. In fact they’re actively hindering the cause.


Nintendo, please, stop doing this.

https://kotaku.com/nintendo-takedown-le ... 1848700781

Utterly ridiculous from Nintendo, but not the only defunct publication to be slapped with a copyright notice on Archive recently. GamesTM, GamesMaster, PlayStation Max, Official PlayStation Magazine (but only the UK edition), PSM2, Xbox World, PlayStation Power, and EDGE have all been removed over the course of the last year. EDGE fair enough, it's still around, but otherwise I don't get it. These are often DEAD publications, no money has been made from them in some cases for over 20 years, no money is likely to be made from them for another 20 years, all somebody is doing is depriving others from reading it.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Balladeer » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:27 pm

Nintendo's legal department is the No Fun Allowed robot.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by KK » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:38 pm

A lot of the old Prima strategy guides are still up but for reasons I don't understand the point of, a number of them are being hidden behind a loan scheme, where you're only allowed to borrow the book for either 1 hour or 14-days. Like a library.

If Nintendo are that bothered, why not give people the opportunity of purchasing it again? Even as a high grade PDF if you really want to be stingy about it.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Captain Kinopio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:57 pm

I think it's more about it shows up how gooseberry fool some of the crap they put out these days is and would get people asking or demanding better quality stuff from them.

That Kickstarter for hand drawn gameguides for Metroid and Zelda got taken down and that was somebody just producing their own unofficial thing using their own original artwork. The guy said he understood their reasoning and was ok with it but it just makes me think Nintendo are strawberry floating lazy banana splits who'd rather squeeze out a turd and sell it as gold and not have customers point to a single person producing something of higher quality without the resources of a multinational corporation behind them.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Christopher » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:14 pm

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Ironhide » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:44 pm

strawberry floating Nintendo.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by ITSMILNER » Fri Mar 25, 2022 3:49 pm

Seems NoA requested the takedown, why would they bother for something that was only released in Japan?

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by OrangeRKN » Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:03 pm

Captain Kinopio wrote:That Kickstarter for hand drawn gameguides for Metroid and Zelda got taken down and that was somebody just producing their own unofficial thing using their own original artwork.


On what grounds were they able to take that down? I didn't think you needed any licencing for game guides. Magazine shelves are still filled with "100% unofficial guide to Fortnite!" or Minecraft or whatever.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Captain Kinopio » Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:50 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:
Captain Kinopio wrote:That Kickstarter for hand drawn gameguides for Metroid and Zelda got taken down and that was somebody just producing their own unofficial thing using their own original artwork.


On what grounds were they able to take that down? I didn't think you needed any licencing for game guides. Magazine shelves are still filled with "100% unofficial guide to Fortnite!" or Minecraft or whatever.


The guy never said and I don't think they served him with an official takedown but I think it was kind of the case that he couldn't get assurance that they wouldn't come after him if he went ahead and it became mega successful.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Fade » Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:37 am

Japanese lawyers take down YouTube videos simply for using still images of media they're talking about.

There's a 99% conviction rate no? It's a country where companies are always in the right unless they're breaking the law.

Leads to stupid mindsets like this.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Qikz » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:50 am

Fade wrote:Japanese lawyers take down YouTube videos simply for using still images of media they're talking about.

There's a 99% conviction rate no? It's a country where companies are always in the right unless they're breaking the law.

Leads to stupid mindsets like this.


This was NOA that took it down though, not even NCL.

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by KjGarly » Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:34 pm

If anyone wants a Mega link to download them I have one..

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Mommy Christmas » Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:05 am

KjGarly wrote:If anyone wants a Mega link to download them I have one..


Hi mate,

Can I have the link?

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by aayl1 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:10 am

I'd love that link too plz Garly!

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Jezo » Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:30 am

KjGarly wrote:If anyone wants a Mega link to download them I have one..

What a legend

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by shy guy 64 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:23 pm

i really dont see the point in taking it down. nor do i see the point in reading it the internet is plastered with guides to this

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by KjGarly » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:50 pm

shy guy 64 wrote:i really dont see the point in taking it down. nor do i see the point in reading it the internet is plastered with guides to this


You don’t see the point in people wanting to read a unique guide previously only available in Japan with the only way of obtaining it was to pay a ridiculous high amount to buy it from a reseller in which 0% of the proceeds would even go to LOLtendo?

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by shy guy 64 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:28 pm

KjGarly wrote:
shy guy 64 wrote:i really dont see the point in taking it down. nor do i see the point in reading it the internet is plastered with guides to this


You don’t see the point in people wanting to read a unique guide previously only available in Japan with the only way of obtaining it was to pay a ridiculous high amount to buy it from a reseller in which 0% of the proceeds would even go to LOLtendo?


No

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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by KjGarly » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:58 pm

shy guy 64 wrote:
KjGarly wrote:
shy guy 64 wrote:i really dont see the point in taking it down. nor do i see the point in reading it the internet is plastered with guides to this


You don’t see the point in people wanting to read a unique guide previously only available in Japan with the only way of obtaining it was to pay a ridiculous high amount to buy it from a reseller in which 0% of the proceeds would even go to LOLtendo?


No


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PostRe: Nintendo orders removal of Super Mario 64 strategy guide scans from 1996
by Tomous » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:25 pm

shy guy 64 wrote:i really dont see the point in taking it down. nor do i see the point in reading it the internet is plastered with guides to this



It's not about wanting a guide for the game, it's about appreciating the artwork.

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