Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

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by Rex Kramer » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:37 pm

Seems to be a lot of Switch offers on the horizon during black friday if someone is looking to pick one up. Tesco, Aldi and Asda are all offering sub £240 I think.

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by OrangeRKN » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:42 pm

Does your uncle work for Sony ad??

Tomous wrote:What Nintendo need to do is expand Retro and NLG (they need to buy them up too) so they are 2 games studios and not 1 game. And when that 1 game gets cancelled youre left with a decade without a release in Retro's case.

I dont see why they are adverse to this investment. NLG and Retro produce good games and with the Nintendo IPs available it seems a no brainer to me.


Nintendo seem to prefer having a small amount of first-party development and instead establishing long-term relationships with independent studios. Look at HAL Laboratory for example.

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by Robbo-92 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:49 pm

Isn’t Retro a well funded, second party studio anyway? Seem to seen quite a few announcements this year about them hiring people, someone who’s worked on the most recent God of War stood out to me so they’re probably not being under invested in? Still amazes me that we’ll have gone probably around 9 years between games from Retro, that’s if Metroid Prime 4 comes out in 2022 as well.

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by Tomous » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:08 pm

Robbo-92 wrote:Isn’t Retro a well funded, second party studio anyway? Seem to seen quite a few announcements this year about them hiring people, someone who’s worked on the most recent God of War stood out to me so they’re probably not being under invested in? Still amazes me that we’ll have gone probably around 9 years between games from Retro, that’s if Metroid Prime 4 comes out in 2022 as well.



Retro is around 100 employees i believe.

Monolift Soft was similar when Nintendo acquired them but is now around 250 employees and has multiple games in development at one time as well as supporting Nintendo on key EAD projects like BOTW. I would like to see Retro grown to that level but for whatever reason, there is no appetite to do that it seems

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by consistent » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:09 pm

Retro must be one of the least efficient developers in the world. What have they been doing for the last few years?

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by Tomous » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:11 pm

Working on projects that were ultimately cancelled most likely.

They have a history of cancelled games throughout their history.

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by Balladeer » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:12 pm

Tomous wrote:Retro is around 100 employees i believe.

Monolift Soft was similar when Nintendo acquired them but is now around 250 employees and has multiple games in development at one time as well as supporting Nintendo on key EAD projects like BOTW. I would like to see Retro grown to that level but for whatever reason, there is no appetite to do that it seems

Is it just because Monolith’s games did gangbusters from the off, particularly in Japan; and Retro’s... didn’t?

I agree though. Especially now, when they obviously cocked up their first take on Metroid Prime 4 in Nintendo’s eyes, it’s surely just more efficient and cost-effective to assume direct control.

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by Tomous » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:16 pm

Balladeer wrote:
Tomous wrote:Retro is around 100 employees i believe.

Monolift Soft was similar when Nintendo acquired them but is now around 250 employees and has multiple games in development at one time as well as supporting Nintendo on key EAD projects like BOTW. I would like to see Retro grown to that level but for whatever reason, there is no appetite to do that it seems

Is it just because Monolith’s games did gangbusters from the off, particularly in Japan; and Retro’s... didn’t?

I agree though. Especially now, when they obviously cocked up their first take on Metroid Prime 4 in Nintendo’s eyes, it’s surely just more efficient and cost-effective to assume direct control.


Not really. Monolift Soft games tend to be in the 1m-2m mark which Retro's releases either match or are better than.

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by Balladeer » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:21 pm

No idea then. Japan/America locations? Has Nintendo ever bought a Western company?

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by Squinty » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:29 pm

Tomous wrote:Working on projects that were ultimately cancelled most likely.

They have a history of cancelled games throughout their history.


I'm surprised they didn't get absolutely shitcanned.

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by Robbo-92 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:29 pm

Who knows, maybe if they ace Metroid Prime 4 they’ll think about investing/buying them? Having one more studio wouldn’t be a bad thing for Nintendo after all.

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by Christopher » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:34 pm

Nintendo have owned Retro since 2002.

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by Balladeer » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:44 pm

...I’ve been fake newsed. :(

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by Christopher » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:49 pm

Nintendo were the ones cancelling Retro’s projects to get them helping out on other games. I’d imagine the game they were working on before they were told to fix Metroid Prime 4 was cancelled too.

They’re one of two American studios they own, the other being NST.

Were you thinking of Next Level Games? They signed an exclusive agreement with Nintendo to develop games for them.

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by Robbo-92 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:17 pm

I thought it was a case of they unofficially owned them and they only make games for Nintendo platforms kind of thing, good to know it’s not the case and they actually own them then!

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by Tomous » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:03 pm

Squinty wrote:
Tomous wrote:Working on projects that were ultimately cancelled most likely.

They have a history of cancelled games throughout their history.


I'm surprised they didn't get absolutely shitcanned.



Tropical Freeze sold over 2.5m for a port they probably knocked together in 6 months for strawberry float all cost. I imagine that has helped cover their costs for awhile.

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by kuliand » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:59 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:Does your uncle work for Sony ad??

Tomous wrote:What Nintendo need to do is expand Retro and NLG (they need to buy them up too) so they are 2 games studios and not 1 game. And when that 1 game gets cancelled youre left with a decade without a release in Retro's case.

I dont see why they are adverse to this investment. NLG and Retro produce good games and with the Nintendo IPs available it seems a no brainer to me.


Nintendo seem to prefer having a small amount of first-party development and instead establishing long-term relationships with independent studios. Look at HAL Laboratory for example.


Nintendo owns both Retro and HAL from what I have read in the past.

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by OrangeRKN » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:06 pm

They own Retro (since 2002) but HAL Lab has always been independent albeit very close to Nintendo

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by Christopher » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:36 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:They own Retro (since 2002) but HAL Lab has always been independent albeit very close to Nintendo


Correct, much like Intelligent Systems.

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by The Watching Artist » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:01 pm

jawa wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Which video guide was that?

I really am enjoying the style and characters so I would like to get good at it!

I've got it on Easy too...


I think this is the one, Tom!

It might well have been that. It was posted in the thread I'm sure.

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