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Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:36 pm
by jawa2
Oh, and I'd like to buy a Switch dock. Now that - finally! - I have a new TV* it'd be cool to use my Switch with both that and my smaller screen. I guess that official ones are still impossible to buy?

*Which I've only mentioned about six or so times ;-).

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:45 pm
by Balladeer
OrangeRKN wrote::lol:

The "Splatoon 2 and Mario Maker 2 are basically ports" argument really irks me though, it even gets said for Smash Ultimate. It's Nintendo's doing because of the oversaturation of ports and deluxe versions but they are absolutely sequels by any reasonable measure!

...

I think it's clear the output has fallen because of the increased demands of making modern HD games. It was never a simple trade of one console with double the output because making a game for Switch is not comparable to making one for DS (even though it could be if they and the consumer were willing to accept lesser production values, but I'm not sure either are from a mainstream perspective)

I’ve played bits and pieces of all three of those games, and by far the most of Smash Ultimate. It’s definitely the most porty-feeling of the three!

While I agree with the last paragraph, I personally don’t think it’s a good trade-off. Also at this stage it doesn’t feel like we’ve even got 1.5 machines’ worth of games. Right now it feels like from a games perspective we’ve outright lost out from this new strategy, even though I’m sure more work goes into making a Switch game (more work that I’m not sure I’ve really seen the benefits of outside 2017’s releases personally).

Anyway that’s why I’m so keen on Nintendo farming out their IP to smaller studios. Then the ‘average consumer’ is more likely to accept a smaller budget game!

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:47 pm
by Tomous
jawa2 wrote:Crumbs! I hadn't expected such a volume of responses!

Looking over your thoughts, in some ways I think I was a bit harsh. I kinda stick by my thinking that the amount of ports put out at £49.99 has been a bit much and it's possibly this that has over-shadowed my perception of the new titles that have been released. The outstanding opening year set the bar high, as well, and I know you can't expect that to happen every year.

I feel that 2020 was a year in which Nintendo could have done even better were it not for COVID impacts. With the PS4 and XBO receiving slightly fewer big games due to the development shift to the new consoles, I was looking to Nintendo for big, must-have titles and they couldn't really deliver. Nintendo still had a smashing year in terms of console sales, of course, but first-party new hit titles seemed few.

I'm looking for more from Nintendo. They've done very well during the past few years and I hope they can build on this with new "must have" games that really push Switch forward.




I don't think I've ever paid £49.99 for a Switch title, everything can be found for around £40 on release.

Nintendo definitely *could* be more generous with the pricing on these ports but at the end of the day, they don't need to. Everything is selling well and they are effectively recouping sales they lost for the Wii U bombing. I think a goodwill programme where those who owned the Wii U original can get a Switch download code at a cut price would have been a nice thing to do.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:52 pm
by jawa2
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This new red n' blue Switch launches on 12 February at $299.99.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:55 pm
by Victor Mildew
Red switch body with grey joycons would look great.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:57 pm
by Tomous
Balladeer wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote::lol:

The "Splatoon 2 and Mario Maker 2 are basically ports" argument really irks me though, it even gets said for Smash Ultimate. It's Nintendo's doing because of the oversaturation of ports and deluxe versions but they are absolutely sequels by any reasonable measure!

...

I think it's clear the output has fallen because of the increased demands of making modern HD games. It was never a simple trade of one console with double the output because making a game for Switch is not comparable to making one for DS (even though it could be if they and the consumer were willing to accept lesser production values, but I'm not sure either are from a mainstream perspective)

I’ve played bits and pieces of all three of those games, and by far the most of Smash Ultimate. It’s definitely the most porty-feeling of the three!

While I agree with the last paragraph, I personally don’t think it’s a good trade-off. Also at this stage it doesn’t feel like we’ve even got 1.5 machines’ worth of games. Right now it feels like from a games perspective we’ve outright lost out from this new strategy, even though I’m sure more work goes into making a Switch game (more work that I’m not sure I’ve really seen the benefits of outside 2017’s releases personally).

Anyway that’s why I’m so keen on Nintendo farming out their IP to smaller studios. Then the ‘average consumer’ is more likely to accept a smaller budget game!




Truth is, Nintendo didn't have the resources for the HD era and by combining the handheld/console it has given them the resource to support "1 machines" worth of games.

Definitely could be argued they should have invested in other studios as well as expanding what they had towards the end of the Wii era 10 years ago.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:59 pm
by Robbo-92
Various websites reporting new hardware incoming, has to be the Switch Pro right?

Nintendo - we heard you wanted a new Switch, here’s the same Switch but in red and blue is that enough?

:lol:

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:40 pm
by Barnsy!
Bowsers Fury looked very cool. I do get the impression we've pretty much seen everything though. Looks to be one big open world level, rather than a hub / extra world with lots of levels. Suspect theres maybe only a couple of hours of content, but quality not quantity and all that. Looks like there maybe a bit of a story too Paint brush Bowser jr seems to be helping Mario and Bowser seems to be prossessed by the goo.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:57 pm
by Fisher
shyguy64 did a villager give you a present in animal crossing new horizons today.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:42 am
by shy guy 64
Fisher wrote:shyguy64 did a villager give you a present in animal crossing new horizons today.


yeah

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:04 pm
by Robbo-92
Got an order in for what I hope will be my last Amiibo as the Banjo and Kazooie one went up yesterday.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:30 pm
by Hypes

twitter.com/alexhern/status/1349302447278317569


Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:01 pm
by Tomous
A lederhosen in Berlin?

Oh dear, Nintendo.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:01 pm
by Tomous
Nothing to see here, Jenuall :capnscotty:

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:07 pm
by Jenuall
A double post in the Switch thread?

Oh dear, Tomous.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:50 pm
by Dual
Is Waifu Uncovered worth £4.49?

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:55 pm
by Balladeer
Nintendo Life seemed to quite like it. :|

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:08 pm
by shy guy 64
Robbo-92 wrote:Got an order in for what I hope will be my last Amiibo as the Banjo and Kazooie one went up yesterday.


huh didnt get an email about that and almost missed them

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:58 pm
by Fisher
shyguy64 did you sell items in animal crossing new horizons today.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Fore!

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:53 am
by shy guy 64
Fisher wrote:shyguy64 did you sell items in animal crossing new horizons today.


yes