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Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 3:59 pm
by That
Alvin Flummux wrote:Gotta love that unpatchable exploit calling into question the entire console's online future. :simper:

It's (almost) nothing to do with some users having root access though, right? It's about the game servers not running basic consistency checks on user input. The modified client is saying "I want to shoot ten trillion times a second" and the server is unthinkingly saying "OK, seems legit". (EDIT: To clarify, FWIW I understand that Splatoon 2 is P2P, but that doesn't mean the host has to accept bad input from the clients or vice-versa.)

Everyone has root level access to their PC, it hasn't killed PC online. Server-side anti-cheat can stop dead all but the most subtle hacks, and client-side anti-cheat can take care of the rest and still be very difficult to get around.

The Tegra hack might kill Switch multiplayer but if it does it will be because of Nintendo's laziness and incompetence, not because it was some unpreventable inevitability of hacked hardware.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 4:07 pm
by Alvin Flummux
Karl wrote:The Tegra hack might kill Switch multiplayer but if it does it will be because of Nintendo's laziness and incompetence, not because it was some unpreventable inevitability of hacked hardware.


Do we trust Nintendo to do the smart thing here? They've never been the most forward thinking, up to date or competent when it comes to online things. Then again though, this threatens to ruin their whole online strategy, so you'd think somebody there would be thinking straight.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 4:36 pm
by That
Their past form (e.g. with Mario Kart games which had a big hacking problem) is that they didn't do anything about it. Which is a shame because it's not even that hard to band-aid the most obvious hacks.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 4:41 pm
by HaruKazuhira
If this endangers Smash Switch online I'm gonna be heckin' pissed.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:25 pm
by Rog
I think there is a huge security breach on switch. Clearly Klopp has been looking at my FM Touch save file and is buying the exact same players I bought. WTF :lol:

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:30 pm
by Tomous
Karl wrote:Their past form (e.g. with Mario Kart games which had a big hacking problem) is that they didn't do anything about it. Which is a shame because it's not even that hard to band-aid the most obvious hacks.


The difference here being they're 12 months into the systems life and charging for it from September. Surely they won’t just ignore it? Even by Nintendo’s online standards that would be really poor.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:31 pm
by That
For sure. Fingers crossed.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 11:49 pm
by Fisher
Karl wrote:
Fisher wrote:may not get dark souls for the switch.

Gonna pick it up on PC instead right?


heard its difficult and you die easy and won't be getting it on pc and not getting the game.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 10:11 am
by jawafour
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:...Yuki's Island Express...

Pinball and Metroid... it's an unlikely combination but it's reviewing well, kF - Eurogamer "Recommended" and 82 on Metacritic.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:40 am
by Tomous
jawafour wrote:
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:...Yuki's Island Express...

Pinball and Metroid... it's an unlikely combination but it's reviewing well, kF - Eurogamer "Recommended" and 82 on Metacritic.


Er Metroid and Pinball isn’t that unlikely a combination Jawa...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Prime_Pinball

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 11:57 am
by jawafour
Tomous wrote:Er Metroid and Pinball isn’t that unlikely a combination Jawa...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Prime_Pinball

... :lol: . There is nothing that can't be pinball'd!

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 12:23 pm
by Preezy
Surely it makes perfect sense? Samus often rolls into a ball. You use a ball for pinball.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 4:05 pm
by kazanova_Frankenstein
jawafour wrote:
kazanova_Frankenstein wrote:...Yuki's Island Express...

Pinball and Metroid... it's an unlikely combination but it's reviewing well, kF - Eurogamer "Recommended" and 82 on Metacritic.


It is indeed. I’m really on the fence with this one. Some of the reviews state its only 5 hours long and that the pinball mechanics are compromised quite heavily (can’t change how hard you hit the ball). Others love it. Think I will see what the overriding impression is in a week from now. No need to add to the back log this minute....

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 5:25 pm
by HaruKazuhira

twitter.com/motosengyo/status/999823303173922816



This looks pretty clean.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 5:41 pm
by Floex
Context?

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 5:55 pm
by Victor Mildew
Dock-less sku I'd imagine

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 5:58 pm
by HaruKazuhira
It's the Dock-less Switch that's Japan only. Just a pic of someone showing the box. I just like the minimalist approach to the presentation.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:07 pm
by Christopher
I would buy a couple of those if they launched here to replace the number of 3DS systems we have in the house.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:12 pm
by Victor Mildew
suzzopher wrote:I would buy a couple of those if they launched here to replace the number of 3DS systems we have in the house.


I'd pay double for a switch that can run 3ds/ds carts.

Re: Nintendo Switch Chat Thread Too

Posted: Tue May 29, 2018 6:19 pm
by jawafour
I'd pay treble if the system had some gaems.