Oscars 2012 - Nominations announced at 1:30pm

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by Lenty » Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:47 pm

Unusually poor nomination list which should set The Artist up for a large haul. Best Picture list being particularly poor. Should be fun to put together our own Kermode Awards: a list of wins for those not even nominated for an Academy. Drive, Senna, We Need To Talk About Kevin, Tyranosaur, Trent Reznor's soundtrack. All noticeable by their absence!

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by Banjo » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:41 pm

I know you always get the unquestionable piece of gooseberry fool in the Best Picture category (gooseberry fool like The Blind Side) but this year we're spoiled with War Horse, The Help and Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close. I haven't actually seen the last one but dear christ it looks worse than the other two combined.

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PostRe: Oscars 2012 - Nominations announced at 1:30pm
by gaminglegend » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:47 pm

Banjo wrote:I know you always get the unquestionable piece of gooseberry fool in the Best Picture category (gooseberry fool like The Blind Side) but this year we're spoiled with War Horse, The Help and Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close. I haven't actually seen the last one but dear christ it looks worse than the other two combined.


The Blind Side was well worthy :?

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by Poncho » Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:51 pm

gaminglegend wrote:
Banjo wrote:I know you always get the unquestionable piece of gooseberry fool in the Best Picture category (gooseberry fool like The Blind Side) but this year we're spoiled with War Horse, The Help and Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close. I haven't actually seen the last one but dear christ it looks worse than the other two combined.


The Blind Side was well worthy :?


Ha. Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder.

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by rudderless » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:06 pm

What made me laugh was somewhere said The Descendants was expected to give The Artist a run for its money as the most nominated film. Like it was ever going to get any technical nods. :lol: Having said that, Shailene Woodley should easily have made the list for Best Supporting Actress.

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by tomvek » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:09 pm

Still can't believe 'Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close' and 'The Help' are up for best film.

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by DML » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:54 pm

Kanbei wrote:No Tintin in Best Animated :|
No Senna in Best Documentary :|


Largely mo-capped films have no place in the animation catergory in my opinion.

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by Kanbei » Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:53 pm

DML wrote:
Kanbei wrote:No Tintin in Best Animated :|
No Senna in Best Documentary :|


Largely mo-capped films have no place in the animation catergory in my opinion.


It's still animated. It easily deserves a place on that list.

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by tomvek » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:13 pm

Agree, it's a more impressive film than 'Puss in boots' at least.

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PostRe: Oscars 2012 - Nominations announced at 1:30pm
by Prototype » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:25 pm

I can't seem to find any nominations for Modern Warfare 3...

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by DML » Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:44 pm

Kanbei wrote:
DML wrote:
Kanbei wrote:No Tintin in Best Animated :|
No Senna in Best Documentary :|


Largely mo-capped films have no place in the animation catergory in my opinion.


It's still animated. It easily deserves a place on that list.


Its barely animated. Mo-cap should have a seperate category.

Also Puss In Boots got 83% on Rotten Tomatoes - I'm guessing you havent seen it, its not all that 'Shrek'-like.

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by tomvek » Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:57 pm

DML wrote:Also Puss In Boots got 83% on Rotten Tomatoes - I'm guessing you havent seen it, its not all that 'Shrek'-like.

I didn't think it was Shrek like, I just found Tintin surpassed it in many areas such as it's overall scope, visuals, story and direction.

Also it's unfair to put Tintin down for it's use of mo-cap. While the actors provide that data for the animators, it still has to be smoothed out with additional animation added. This isn't even taking into account the world and items in it that the animators have to create which can't be mo-capped at all combined with the art direction in general. Overall it's still an impressive piece of work and it's a bit of an insult to say it doesn't deserve to be in the best animation category.

Everyone knows you have a cat bias anyway ;)

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by satriales » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:15 pm

DML wrote:
Kanbei wrote:
DML wrote:
Kanbei wrote:No Tintin in Best Animated :|
No Senna in Best Documentary :|


Largely mo-capped films have no place in the animation catergory in my opinion.


It's still animated. It easily deserves a place on that list.


Its barely animated. Mo-cap should have a seperate category.

The name animation is probably wrong these days. With hand-drawn cartoons it made sense to call that animation as it encompassed all of the drawing too, but these days with CGI a lot of work goes into modelling/lighting/shaders/rending and animation is only a small part of the creation process. So it's not really fair to dismiss those films just because they were animated differently.

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by DML » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:27 pm

tomvek wrote:
DML wrote:Also Puss In Boots got 83% on Rotten Tomatoes - I'm guessing you havent seen it, its not all that 'Shrek'-like.

I didn't think it was Shrek like, I just found Tintin surpassed it in many areas such as it's overall scope, visuals, story and direction.

Also it's unfair to put Tintin down for it's use of mo-cap. While the actors provide that data for the animators, it still has to be smoothed out with additional animation added. This isn't even taking into account the world and items in it that the animators have to create which can't be mo-capped at all combined with the art direction in general. Overall it's still an impressive piece of work and it's a bit of an insult to say it doesn't deserve to be in the best animation category.

Everyone knows you have a cat bias anyway ;)


Well thats wrong for starters. Items can easily be mo-capped in at times. It blurs the lines of the animation category and thats why perhaps it needs it own category.

My favourite out of the five films is easily Kung Fu Panda 2, I just thought it was great. Rango I would like to see win it though.

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by tomvek » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:40 pm

Are you suggesting that they mo-capped the majority of the world and items in Tintin rather than using animation techniques? :lol:

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by DML » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:46 pm

tomvek wrote:Are you suggesting that they mo-capped the majority of the world and items in Tintin rather than using animation techniques? :lol:


No, but they did do some. Couple of guys I know worked on it.

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by Skippy » Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:59 pm

Kung-Fu Panda 2 is better than Tintin anyway so it doesn't matter.

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PostRe: Oscars 2012 - Nominations announced at 1:30pm
by DML » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:01 pm

Rango, Kung Fu Panda 2, Puss in Boots, Rio, Cars 2, Hoodwinked Two! Hood Vs. Evil, Gnomeo & Juliet, Mars Needs Moms, Winnie the Pooh, The Adventures of Tintin, Arthur Christmas, Happy Feet Too, Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked, The Smurfs, Alois Nebel, A Cat in Paris, Chico & Rita and Wrinkles


On an inspection of the films that did go forwards - perhaps I should be less hard on Tintin - how does the Chipmunks count? That has large swathes of live action footage! :?

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PostRe: Oscars 2012 - Nominations announced at 1:30pm
by The People's ElboReformat » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:09 pm

Animated Feature Film
"A Cat in Paris" Alain Gagnol and Jean-Loup Felicioli
"Chico & Rita" Fernando Trueba and Javier Mariscal
"Kung Fu Panda 2" Jennifer Yuh Nelson
"Puss in Boots" Chris Miller
"Rango" Gore Verbinski




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