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Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:06 am
by Tomous
Be interesting to see how this performs against Origami King which I believe is the series leader at 3.5m sold. If it beats that, could have a big impact on the future direction for the series you'd think.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:06 am
by ITSMILNER
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:24 am
by Tomous
Obviously the higher resolution makes the graphical style look lot cleaner but also, the lighting is excellent. Really makes it all pop..
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:29 am
by Memento Mori
shy guy 64 wrote:Ironhide wrote:shy guy 64 wrote:I wonder if they’ll retranslate Vivian to be transgender in the English version
Why? was that ever a thing in the Japanese version?
Yes
What? Nintendo included a trans character in a video game 19 years ago?
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:31 am
by Qikz
Memento Mori wrote:shy guy 64 wrote:Ironhide wrote:shy guy 64 wrote:I wonder if they’ll retranslate Vivian to be transgender in the English version
Why? was that ever a thing in the Japanese version?
Yes
What? Nintendo included a trans character in a video game 19 years ago?
Yup, and even further back Birdo was trans in Super Mario Bros USA in Japan and this is reinforced in Captain Rainbow on Wii.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:01 pm
by Tomous
Memento Mori wrote:shy guy 64 wrote:Ironhide wrote:shy guy 64 wrote:I wonder if they’ll retranslate Vivian to be transgender in the English version
Why? was that ever a thing in the Japanese version?
Yes
What? Nintendo included a trans character in a video game 19 years ago?
Yep. Except in the German and English versions where they changed it during the localization process.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 1:02 pm
by Jezo
Alright lads, Origami King sold 3.47 mill copies. That's the number to beat. Who wants to buy the first mill?
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:33 pm
by Robbo-92
Jezo wrote:Alright lads, Origami King sold 3.47 mill copies. That's the number to beat. Who wants to buy the first mill?
It has to beat Origami King surely…. I’d say it could beat Super Paper Mario as well, which sold just over 4 million?
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:25 pm
by Parksey
I'd rather this was a remake of the first one to be honest.
Firstly, for purely selfish reasons, as I've not played that one - missed out on it in the final days of the N64's life before it got rare and expensive, and I struggle to devote 40+ hours to an NSO game as I tend to just dabble in them for 30 mins then go play a Switch title.
Secondly, because it's probably got more scope for improvements, at least in visuals. TTYD looked great on GC and this remake doesn't seem to have pushed it for ard that much. The original Paper Mario doesn't have the detail or the vibrancy of its sequel.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:29 pm
by ITSMILNER
I hope they do Super Paper Mario next, everyone that says it’s not a great game is absolutely wrong
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:36 pm
by Qikz
Parksey wrote:I'd rather this was a remake of the first one to be honest.
Firstly, for purely selfish reasons, as I've not played that one - missed out on it in the final days of the N64's life before it got rare and expensive, and I struggle to devote 40+ hours to an NSO game as I tend to just dabble in them for 30 mins then go play a Switch title.
Secondly, because it's probably got more scope for improvements, at least in visuals. TTYD looked great on GC and this remake doesn't seem to have pushed it for ard that much. The original Paper Mario doesn't have the detail or the vibrancy of its sequel.
Play it via NSO man, it's great and honestly a remake wouldn't add much. TTYD is by far the better game out of the two and definitely will gain much more from the remake as it's much harder to emulate/it'll never come to switch online.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:37 pm
by shy guy 64
ITSMILNER wrote:I hope they do Super Paper Mario next, everyone that says it’s not a great game is absolutely wrong
I second this
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:49 pm
by Robbo-92
I intend to play Paper Mario 64 at some point, when I cannot say
Also Super Paper Mario is really good, it showed they could change the combat side of the games and still be good, they just went off the rails with Sticker Star.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 11:21 pm
by Green Gecko
As always, there are a couple of stylistic decisions that weaken character in the new visuals. Most noticeably, halftones and dot patterns don't seem to be a thing, which is part of the manga/comic/newspaper/limited print repro techniques. The papery colour balance and saturation is a little lost, but maybe that was just because GameCube had a quite bad colour depth compared to the present. Of course now the dynamic range is extended with more depth which is good but it loses a little something.
Also the characters look a bit more like card which is fine I suppose. I always felt it was cute that they were paper thing - it gave it more character. They seem to have added that extra dimensionality because why not, but I'm not sure it's better. It would be nicer to have some mesh distortion in the paper elements so they feel a bit more like they might fall over or wrinkle/pucker if they weren't animated by magic life force. Not sure if that's ever been a thing.
Own the GC game it's probably the longest I spent on any GameCube game to get from beginning to end as I scoured the whole game (it's surprisingly long). And I completed most.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:04 am
by Qikz
Robbo-92 wrote:I intend to play Paper Mario 64 at some point, when I cannot say
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:18 pm
by ITSMILNER
twitter.com/VGC_News/status/1717206418934173972
Could be a H1 2024 release it seems, perhaps April/May?
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:37 pm
by Robbo-92
Have Nintendo even got much announced for next year at the moment? At the moment this is confirmed for next year, but I can't remember much else really. So first half of the year could make sense, especially if the Switch successor is in the second half of the year.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:03 pm
by Tomous
Robbo-92 wrote:Have Nintendo even got much announced for next year at the moment? At the moment this is confirmed for next year, but I can't remember much else really. So first half of the year could make sense, especially if the Switch successor is in the second half of the year.
They've got Another Code for January, Mario Vs DK for February and Princess Peach's Showtime for March with Luigi's Mansion 2 only dated as summer 2024.
So Milner's April/May suggestion makes sense.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:30 pm
by Robbo-92
Tomous wrote:Robbo-92 wrote:Have Nintendo even got much announced for next year at the moment? At the moment this is confirmed for next year, but I can't remember much else really. So first half of the year could make sense, especially if the Switch successor is in the second half of the year.
They've got Another Code for January, Mario Vs DK for February and Princess Peach's Showtime for March with Luigi's Mansion 2 only dated as summer 2024.
So Milner's April/May suggestion makes sense.
It does, I don't think I even need to buy anything else after Mario RPG to see me through till that point either.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door Remake | NSW | 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:49 pm
by shy guy 64
or maybe it's just really easy to rate a 19 year old game