Suspension of democracy ruled unlawful by Supreme Court | Parliament NOT prorogued | Election November?

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PostSuspension of democracy ruled unlawful by Supreme Court | Parliament NOT prorogued | Election November?
by Karl_ » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:16 pm

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  • Jeremy Corbyn predicted this. No matter what your opinion of Labour, know that they tried to stop this.
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  • Owen Jones calls for occupation of Parliament and a general strike. He says "witty placards will not topple governments."
    Owen Jones wrote:Writing to the Queen is not going to save you, no matter how many letters are sent her way. Petitions may show strength of feeling but can be ignored. Witty placards featuring crude innuendos about the prime minister will raise a smile and brighten up a protest, but they will not topple governments. Our existing rights and freedoms were not given as acts of charity from beneficent elites – they were secured through relentless, determined struggle. Democracy is menaced, and it is this tradition which must be relied on to defend it.

    The British people must now take to the streets, and deploy the tactic used by their ancestors to secure the rights of women, of workers, of minorities, of LGBTQ people: peaceful civil disobedience. If parliament is to be shut down, MPs must refuse to leave it. It should be occupied by the citizens it exists to serve. Other acts of peaceful civil disobedience – including the occupation of government offices across the country – should follow. If a general strike is necessary to defend democracy, then so be it.

  • "I gave this country my youth. You can't just kick me out!" A Portuguese woman who has been here 20 years says the settlement scheme isn't working.
    https://twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1166810390552023041

  • The Defence Secretary has openly admitted that the prorogation is to force through an agenda despite the government's lack of majority. It's not about a Queen's Speech!
    https://twitter.com/MonarchyUK/status/1167048291273584641

  • Boris Johnson assured MPs in writing he would not prorogue Parliament. He acknowledged it would represent an affront to democracy.
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  • The Home Office is preparing to end the current system of family reunification for asylum-seeking children if the UK leaves the EU without a deal.
    The Guardian wrote:A spokesman for the UNHCR said: “[We understand] that if the UK leaves the EU without a deal, the Dublin Regulation, which allows for the transfer of asylum-seeking children and adults within the EU to join family members, will no longer apply to the UK. [...]”

    The Home Office has previously been criticised for making it difficult for young migrants to join family in the UK but lawyers say it is still a vital route for highly vulnerable child migrants, many of whom live on the streets in mainland Europe.

    Efi Stathopoulou, the project coordinator at Refugee Legal Support in Athens, said the family reunification route was the only way she could persuade vulnerable young people to engage with the authorities.

    “Children come here very afraid,” she said. “There have been cases where it was very obvious they were being exploited. Without the possibility of a safe way to reach the UK, these young people will simply vanish to try to cross the Channel at Calais on lorries or boats.”

  • Johnson could be planning an election.
    Jessica Elgot wrote:Boris Johnson has called a unexpected meeting of the cabinet today at 5pm, multiple Whitehall sources have confirmed. The prime minister is then expected to address Conservative MPs at a summer garden party in Downing Street.

    The scheduling of the meeting has sent the rumour mill in Westminster into overdrive about the possibility that the government will set out plans for an snap general election this week.

    Though no plans have been confirmed, senior rebel sources believe that Johnson could move as early as Wednesday this week, with a motion tabled the following day which would require the support of two-thirds of MPs.

    A vote on the snap poll would come with a commitment that polling day would be before October 31 - though the date would ultimately be in the control of the government.

  • Corbyn says he wants general election after legislation blocking no-deal gets passed.
    The Guardian wrote:Corbyn says MPs must come together to stop a no-deal Brexit. He says Labour is working with other parties to achieve that.

    After that, there must be a general election, he says.

    He says a general election is the democratic way forward.

  • Corbyn suggests a vote of no confidence could be followed by a general election, then by a Remain vs. Deal referendum.
    The Guardian wrote:A vote of no confidence is still on the table.

    It is not an either/or, he says.

    He says he wants a general election. Labour would propose a referendum, with remain one option, and another decided by parliament.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Hexx » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:17 pm

I'm not encouraging it...but you can really see the appeal of good old fashioned lynch mobs

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Somebody Else's Presents » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:18 pm

Hang the strawberry floating lot of the banana splits for treason.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Godzilla » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:22 pm

Sorry state of this nation. If this had happened in Africa the British press and MPs would be calling them out for being undemocratic.

Hopefully Boris stays on power long enough for people to see the full cost of brexit.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Karl_ » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:24 pm

It is not hyperbole to suggest that we may now live in a dictatorship. "Temporary" extraordinary powers are often sought by proto-dictatorships, and smaller crises than Brexit have been used to make them permanent. Boris and his far-right cabinet certainly have no philosophical objection to fascism.

I will be updating the OP with protests, petitions, etc. as they are circulated. Please post any that seem to be getting off the ground and I will collate them.

Unfortunately, we lack the direct-democratic infrastructure we would need to really combat this. Strong unions would be capable of forcing out a Prime Minister via a general strike, but we won't be able to do that unless a lot of people get real class-conscious real quickly.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by OrangeXMS » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:25 pm

Everyone needs to get angry about this. I want to go out on the streets and protest.

Our system is far from perfect but this goes completely against the core principal of any democracy.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Hexx » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:26 pm

I blame those silly sexy hookers who seduced Angus Deyton with free love and cocaine.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by OrangeXMS » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:29 pm

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:29 pm

I’m just glad we’ve restored Parliamentary sovereignty.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by OrangeXMS » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:31 pm

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157

Do not prorogue Parliament

Parliament must not be prorogued or dissolved unless and until the Article 50 period has been sufficiently extended or the UK's intention to withdraw from the EU has been cancelled.

454,085 signatures

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:36 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157

Do not prorogue Parliament

Parliament must not be prorogued or dissolved unless and until the Article 50 period has been sufficiently extended or the UK's intention to withdraw from the EU has been cancelled.

454,085 signatures


How can Parliament debate that if Parliament is closed?

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by Festivus Maximus » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:37 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157

Do not prorogue Parliament

Parliament must not be prorogued or dissolved unless and until the Article 50 period has been sufficiently extended or the UK's intention to withdraw from the EU has been cancelled.

454,085 signatures

Signed, thanks OR.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Call and Answer » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:38 pm

I want to wake up now, why can't I wake up...

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by OrangeXMS » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Moggy wrote:How can Parliament debate that if Parliament is closed?


I realise it's ineffective but the parliament petition site is the closest the UK has to direct democracy and a way of quantifying dissent. The number alone may convince people to take notice and draw media attention.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by OrangeXMS » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:44 pm


https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/ ... 0519873536

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:45 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:
Moggy wrote:How can Parliament debate that if Parliament is closed?


I realise it's ineffective but the parliament petition site is the closest the UK has to direct democracy and a way of quantifying dissent. The number alone may convince people to take notice and draw media attention.


I’ve signed but it’ll be ignored.

If they are willing to close Parliament then they don’t give a gooseberry fool about petitions.

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by Saigon Slick » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:48 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:
Moggy wrote:How can Parliament debate that if Parliament is closed?


I realise it's ineffective but the parliament petition site is the closest the UK has to direct democracy and a way of quantifying dissent. The number alone may convince people to take notice and draw media attention.


If it got to ten million it wouldn’t matter. Still, I’ve signed.

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by Knoyleo » Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:48 pm

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by Merry Christmous Everyone » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:34 pm

Signed.

An absolute disgrace.

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PostRe: Parliamentary democracy in the UK has been ended for political reasons by an unelected Prime Minister
by Met » Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:41 pm

Every day I'm more and more happy with my decision to move back to Glasgow from Leeds. At least now I've got something of a chance to get away from BoJo and this farce.


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