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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Xeno » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:19 pm

The 3070 TI reviews have dropped. Not good.

I was checking a price alert and clicked on a 3080TI that is getting sold for list price on amazon, get to amazon and the card is £3k.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:40 pm

Xeno wrote:The 3070 TI reviews have dropped. Not good.

I was checking a price alert and clicked on a 3080TI that is getting sold for list price on amazon, get to amazon and the card is £3k.


2 or 3 FPS improvement? Cost?

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Albert » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:40 pm

Bertie wrote:
Albear wrote:
Bertie wrote:Looks like it. I think you are right. You have limited clearance between case and GPU and might not be able to squeeze 3 fans in the front, even if you moved the top one up. You can get slimline fans, but even one of those might struggle to fit between case and GPU in the middle.

What case is it? You might be able to get a 140mm above and below the GPU.

The good thing is fans are cheap. You sure that top one is pointing the right way and going at 100%? Take the side of and put you hand by it.

Not sure what that single fan is, but I’d be tempted to get a couple of high volume noctuas, see the suggestion from me to zilnad.


Would an AIO system work better do you think?

Something likehttps://www.cclonline.com/category/406/PC-Components/Fans-Cooling/CPU-Coolers/CPU-Liquid-Coolers/


I’m no expert on AIOs. But effectively *snip*


Amazing, thanks Bertie.

Currently running without the case side on and seems to be working far better. Appreciate that's not a longterm solution though

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Xeno » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:43 pm

Bertie wrote:
Xeno wrote:The 3070 TI reviews have dropped. Not good.

I was checking a price alert and clicked on a 3080TI that is getting sold for list price on amazon, get to amazon and the card is £3k.


2 or 3 FPS improvement? Cost?


$100 more expensive for 2 or 3 fps. Paying more for the same thing.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Victor Mildew » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:46 pm

Albear wrote:
Bertie wrote:
Albear wrote:
Bertie wrote:Looks like it. I think you are right. You have limited clearance between case and GPU and might not be able to squeeze 3 fans in the front, even if you moved the top one up. You can get slimline fans, but even one of those might struggle to fit between case and GPU in the middle.

What case is it? You might be able to get a 140mm above and below the GPU.

The good thing is fans are cheap. You sure that top one is pointing the right way and going at 100%? Take the side of and put you hand by it.

Not sure what that single fan is, but I’d be tempted to get a couple of high volume noctuas, see the suggestion from me to zilnad.


Would an AIO system work better do you think?

Something likehttps://www.cclonline.com/category/406/PC-Components/Fans-Cooling/CPU-Coolers/CPU-Liquid-Coolers/


I’m no expert on AIOs. But effectively *snip*


Amazing, thanks Bertie.

Currently running without the case side on and seems to be working far better. Appreciate that's not a longterm solution though


Sorry if it's been covered already, but is getting a new case not an option? My case is a bit GAEMRZ in style, but it's oversized and as such has loads of venting and space inside.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:55 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:
Albear wrote:
Bertie wrote:
Albear wrote:
Bertie wrote:Looks like it. I think you are right. You have limited clearance between case and GPU and might not be able to squeeze 3 fans in the front, even if you moved the top one up. You can get slimline fans, but even one of those might struggle to fit between case and GPU in the middle.

What case is it? You might be able to get a 140mm above and below the GPU.

The good thing is fans are cheap. You sure that top one is pointing the right way and going at 100%? Take the side of and put you hand by it.

Not sure what that single fan is, but I’d be tempted to get a couple of high volume noctuas, see the suggestion from me to zilnad.


Would an AIO system work better do you think?

Something likehttps://www.cclonline.com/category/406/PC-Components/Fans-Cooling/CPU-Coolers/CPU-Liquid-Coolers/


I’m no expert on AIOs. But effectively *snip*


Amazing, thanks Bertie.

Currently running without the case side on and seems to be working far better. Appreciate that's not a longterm solution though


Sorry if it's been covered already, but is getting a new case not an option? My case is a bit GAEMRZ in style, but it's oversized and as such has loads of venting and space inside.


Exactly what I did when I got a iCUE 465x and it’s really good and I love the lights. Was trying to help albear in short term with some additional fans for more flow on the basis he has a mesh fronted case. But yeah, loads of stuff out there on best flow cases.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by OldSoulCyborg » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:03 pm

Bertie wrote:
Xeno wrote:The 3070 TI reviews have dropped. Not good.

I was checking a price alert and clicked on a 3080TI that is getting sold for list price on amazon, get to amazon and the card is £3k.


2 or 3 FPS improvement? Cost?

2-10 fps increase, depending on how fast it runs on a regular 3070. Around 40? 2-3 fps higher. ~90 fps? Might see 6-10 more fps. Definitely nowhere near good enough given the 20% higher price.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Albert » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:03 pm

Yeah could do. I only bought it last September :(

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:18 pm

Albear wrote:Yeah could do. I only bought it last September :(


Mesh front… get 1 or 2 more intakes. Easy.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:19 pm

OldSoulCyborg wrote:
Bertie wrote:
Xeno wrote:The 3070 TI reviews have dropped. Not good.

I was checking a price alert and clicked on a 3080TI that is getting sold for list price on amazon, get to amazon and the card is £3k.


2 or 3 FPS improvement? Cost?

2-10 fps increase, depending on how fast it runs on a regular 3070. Around 40? 2-3 fps higher. ~90 fps? Might see 6-10 more fps. Definitely nowhere near good enough given the 20% higher price.


The problem is the 3070 isn’t freely available. If it were, it’s a no brainer.

Poor from nvidia maximising cash. They know that loads of people want a card, and ampere card, and so will pay it.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by andretmzt » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:26 pm

Scan have got some 3070/3080 bundles going on pre-order at the moment.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Memento Mori » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:59 pm

My new AC unit for my WFH office has arrived. Will be good for my PC in those 36C summer months.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Albert » Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:07 pm

Which one did you go for and How much?

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Memento Mori » Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:13 pm

All the 3070Tis are sold out already. :simper:

Albear wrote:Which one did you go for and How much?


This one. Bought a slightly less powerful one for my bedroom a few years back which is a godsend.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Jenuall » Fri Jun 11, 2021 1:48 pm

What are the tools of choice for post processing injection for games these days - is ReShade still the go to option?

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Lagamorph » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:43 pm

So Overclockers are trialling a new system.

Basically they list 3000 series cards at ridiculous prices, like they currently have 3090 listed for £2.4k and 3070 for £5k, to stop bots automatically buying them up. Then they post discount codes on their forums that only members with more than 1000 posts can access that bring the cost down to RRP.

I can definitely see how it might help avoid some of the scalpers/bots in the short term at least, but it's probably not an ideal long term solution.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Xeno » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:46 pm

I suppose that means their forums are going to get spammed. They are damned if they do and they are damned if they don't but at least it helps those that are in the community which will guarantee a sale for other stuff.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Lagamorph » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:52 pm

Xeno wrote:I suppose that means their forums are going to get spammed. They are damned if they do and they are damned if they don't but at least it helps those that are in the community which will guarantee a sale for other stuff.

Yeah there's likely going to be a lot of nothing bot posts, though at least the admins can try and delete posts like that or just ban accounts.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Memento Mori » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:53 pm

Out of interest I googled to see what the MSRP is now for the MSI 3070 I bought on launch- £770.00 on Currys, up 42% from what I paid. £1000 minimum for a new one on the scalper's market.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by andretmzt » Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:12 pm

Ordered a 6800 for £1,000. :dread:

Not sure if I should cancel the order and wait a little while longer to see if the supply gets better. I feel like I could continue looking at find a 6800XT or a 3080 for a similar price.

Overclockers have got a 3070 on at the moment for 5k. Interestingly they haven't followed suit with their 6900XT stock which is on for a more normal, if still very high, price.

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