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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Knoyleo » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:42 pm

Bertie wrote:Yep. I always have RT on and then depending on performance/cost and whether there is DLSS or not I tinker with the settings, but it’s always on.

Games look great without it, and often perform really well/better without. But there is just that extra bit of quality, or realism that comes from a game with RT and ‘proper’ lighting.

I’m playing metro exodus now. I didn’t play the original (non enhanced) but I have to say the image quality and lighting effects are absolutely incredible.

I was watching this video about the "infinite" ray tracing used in Exodus enhanced edition, and it's really interesting to see the comparisons between the original and this new version.


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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Memento Mori » Thu Jul 15, 2021 1:45 pm

Ray tracing is the first thing I turn off. More frames please.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Knoyleo » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:05 pm

I don't even have a ray tracing capable GPU, so it's all just a pipe dream for me.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:23 pm

Memento Mori wrote:Ray tracing is the first thing I turn off. More frames please.


This poses an interesting question of how many is enough. I know 60 gets targeted quite a bit, but I like a few more than that as it helps with some occasional drops, but I’m lucky to have a 30 series.

I’m running Metro at 1440p on ultrawide and normally I get 144FPS, but this game runs fine at 80s. Yes it’s a notable step down, but the image quality is worth it. I guess while I am used to 144, as long as the FPS is above 60-70 and consistent, I’ll take the graphical improvement over the extra frames.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Memento Mori » Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:26 pm

I aim for around 100 minimum.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Jenuall » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:03 pm

I usually turn RT on in games to have a gander at how it looks but I've yet to play a game where it makes enough difference to bother with long term. I'm definitely in the more frames please category

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Albert » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:08 pm

My monitor's max framerate is only 60, so I tend to go 4k with all the bells and whistles as long as I can get 60FPS.

Is the difference of a higher framerate really noticeable above 60? Don't think I've ever seen a game running at more than 60 and personally think the difference between 30 and 60 is huge, so would really love to see what 90 or 120 looks like.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Jenuall » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:10 pm

FPS above 100 can feel incredible in some games! I was amazed what a difference it made to something like Doom Eternal

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Memento Mori » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:10 pm

Albear wrote:My monitor's max framerate is only 60, so I tend to go 4k with all the bells and whistles as long as I can get 60FPS.

Is the difference of a higher framerate really noticeable above 60? Don't think I've ever seen a game running at more than 60 and personally think the difference between 30 and 60 is huge, so would really love to see what 90 or 120 looks like.

I was sceptical too before I got a 144Hz monitor but it's definitely noticeable and I can't go back.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Xeno » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:11 pm

You can fell the change in the other way dependant on the game.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:22 pm

Yeah, agreed. 144 is awesome. For fast paced games (Doom is a great example) I’ll take frames over graphics… it’s soooo smooth.

For slower paced games (Metro is quite stealthy and cyberpunk has the combat but is quite story heavy) I can take a lower FPS. Racing games also need high FPS and benefit, so it’ll be interesting to see what Forza Horizon 5 does as I won’t be able to have high FPS and all the bells and whistles.

What I would say, is don’t rush for high refresh monitors. Once you go 144hz in certain games, 60 does feel sluggish.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:24 pm

The jump from 30-60 is massive. I think the jump from 60-120 isn’t quite the jump (in overall experience noting its a big frame jump).

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Xeno » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:23 pm

The new DLC for Rimworld is out.


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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Wed Jul 21, 2021 10:31 am


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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by andretmzt » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:15 pm

Prices seem to be slowly coming down. Seen the 6800 on for £920, and 6900XT for £1250.

HSH28 wrote:No Last Guardian.
No new exclusive PS4 games.
No longer free MP for PS4.

Microsoft win E3.
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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Knoyleo » Wed Jul 21, 2021 12:40 pm

The second hand market has been flooded with GPUs and seen prices fall as Chinese miners look to recoup losses after the Chinese government cracked down on crypto mining, too. They're still well above rrp, but it's an improvement I guess.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Dowbocop » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:59 am

I bought the Tokyo Olympics game and just got my first foil Steam card! Normally my cards are worth about 5p so I just flog them for whatever and get on with my life, but this one is priced as starting at £25 :shock:

Do I lowball or highball it? I looked on Steam Exchange and it's not on there...

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Zilnad » Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:27 pm

Noice. I think I got a foil card when cards very first became a thing but they definitely weren't that expensive back then. I didn't even realise you could still get them.

Put it high, if it doesn't sell, lower it gradually.

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Bertie » Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:59 pm

Dowbocop wrote:I bought the Tokyo Olympics game and just got my first foil Steam card! Normally my cards are worth about 5p so I just flog them for whatever and get on with my life, but this one is priced as starting at £25 :shock:

Do I lowball or highball it? I looked on Steam Exchange and it's not on there...


What’s this? What have i missed? What are foil steam cards?

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PostRe: (PCGT VI) Nvidia 3060 Unhackable Firmware Has Been Hacked
by Xeno » Sun Aug 01, 2021 1:04 pm

Rare trading cards. Completely useless but people are willing to pay for them. You can also make shiny badges.


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