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Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:40 pm
by Mafro
No it's still a thing. For example, posting the fixtures when they came out last week or whenever was banned on the Football365 forums because of the licensing. You could discuss them, but not actually post them
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:24 pm
by Super Dragon 64
That's the kind of thing that shows how archaic copyright law is. That being said, based on the two links posted by Lex and my vague recollection of studying IP law over 2010/11, I think that the Football365 forums are working on out of date information. The 2012 ruling by the European Court holds more weight than any UK decision on the matter which, I think, is as old as 1959.
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:59 am
by TheTurnipKing
Suffice to say, that public screencasting isn't really covered in the copyright act. And videogames have a history of being used for public exhibition, since the likes of Pong and Spacewar.
Arcade machines didn't have an attract mode because only the player playing them was allowed to look at the screen.
(though, interestingly, early versions of Battlezone DID have a visor type dealie... that was removed from later models because only the player could see what was going on, and it was considered detrimental to encourging other people to have a go.)
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:05 am
by TheTurnipKing
lex-man » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:19 pm wrote:I actually quite like Phil Fish he's one of those guys you go down the pub with who is fun to hang around with but has some crazy ideas. Also I really like Fez's art and music style but not actually playing the game it's just a bit dull.
Quite honestly I consider Fish himself to be secondary to the importance of the debate he's started, especially with the drive towards internet streaming "content" that the console manufacturers have begun this generation.
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:00 am
by chalkitdown
That was a great video. The internet is full of shitty people, really.
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:42 am
by Lex-Man
TheTurnipKing » Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:05 am wrote:lex-man » Sun Jun 22, 2014 8:19 pm wrote:I actually quite like Phil Fish he's one of those guys you go down the pub with who is fun to hang around with but has some crazy ideas. Also I really like Fez's art and music style but not actually playing the game it's just a bit dull.
Quite honestly I consider Fish himself to be secondary to the importance of the debate he's started, especially with the drive towards internet streaming "content" that the console manufacturers have begun this generation.
The problem is that a lot of people have dismissed the debate. I kind of agree as it's a more complicated issue than can be answered with a simple yes or no.
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:46 pm
by Fade
I can hear that guys lips smacking together the entire video D=
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 1:55 pm
by 1cmanny1
It was pretty well thought out though
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:58 pm
by Mafro
Fade wrote:I can hear that guys lips smacking together the entire video D=
Re: Phil Fish compares Youtubers to pirates
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:22 pm
by Andrew Mills
Got a bit of time to kill? Just came across this, rather in-depth, legalised piece on the whole affair and seems like it could be worth a read...
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm? ... id=2368615