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by Pedz » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:49 am

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Clearly whoever wrote that is a moron as it says 'the the' at the start.

Tafdolphin wrote:But Pepe has also been classified as a hate symbol


How do you even find out about this stuff? Do you purposely dig around to find alternative meanings for seemingly innocent looking things?

I worry about you Taf, you're more PC than the contents of a police car.


TBF, the Pepe thing is, I thought, common knowledge. I know people who use it without any racist views. They were using the Twitch emotes before the whole racist shite. Unfortunately, it's been tainted now.

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by Pedz » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:53 am

Tafdolphin wrote:
Vermilion wrote:How do you even find out about this stuff? Do you purposely dig around to find alternative meanings for seemingly innocent looking things?

I worry about you Taf, you're more PC than the contents of a police car.




I posted a CNN article, it's hardly a deep web conspiracy theory. I read the news a lot and I listen. I take care to update myself on current trends in order to recognise heinous gooseberry fool when it rears its head. Case in point: a friend of mine went to Manchester comic-con and saw a guy in Kekistan attire. He had to ask around to figure out if the guy was a twat. The alt-right consistently use 'seemingly innocent looking' symbols and designs to identify themselves and knowing this gooseberry fool is more important than ever these days. It's like not bothering to learn the different between 'coloured person' and 'person of colour.'

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Tafdolphin wrote:That leads into a question I've had rolling around in my head for a while:

Is Pepe ever acceptable to use?

I've joined a Destiny 2 clan and one of the default smilies for use in chat is a Pepe. But Pepe has also been classified as a hate symbol employed by the alt-right and generally seen as a brand marker for dog-whistling behaviour.

I'm always uncomfortable when it comes up, but its use in the clan seems to be entirely benign, as it does in that story.

Hmm.


Use it only if you're willing to start the most boring conversation ever about how you were into it before it was racist like the world's worst hipster.


Urgh. I can imagine that. No thank you. I never know whether to point out to people using it that it's got, you know, connotations but considering how well raising this question has gone maybe I'll keep schtum.


Could you not just PM the clan leader and politely tell them, that while you know they aren't racist, that Pepe has and being used as a symbol of hate, and people seeing it associated with the clan may lead them to believe that they have that view?

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by Tafdolphin » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:54 am

Yeah, I've considered that, but my cowardly ways got the best of me and I backed down.

Something for me to think about though, certainly.

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by Jenuall » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:37 am

What the strawberry float is Pepe anyway?

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by Tafdolphin » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:51 am

Jenuall wrote:What the strawberry float is Pepe anyway?


TL;dr version - a popular webcomic character co-opted by the far right .

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by Jenuall » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:54 am

Tafdolphin wrote:
Jenuall wrote:What the strawberry float is Pepe anyway?


TL;dr version - a popular webcomic character co-opted by the far right .


Fair enough, obviously managed to avoid that one in my stumblings round the internet over the years.

That probably means I'm not part of the far right, which is nice to get confirmation on. :toot:

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by Karl » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:08 am

Twitch's relationship with Pepe is very interesting. I don't think the typical person who types e.g. monkaS, FeelsBadMan, pepeD is at all aware of the character's association with white supremacy. I am a bit uncomfortable with them and don't use them myself, but I don't think it would advance any kind of cause to start saying "chat, you shouldn't use those emotes, because, well, when people make memes of that character over on Twitter it's often to self-identify as a neo-Nazi"; it seems a bit precious and in any case the average person will think you're nuts.

I wonder whether you can rationalise it as there being two slightly different "dialects" of Pepe that have evolved in those two different communities. (A linguist will write a paper about that one day, mark my words.)

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by OrangeRKN » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:29 am

Pedz wrote:Could you not just PM the clan leader and politely tell them, that while you know they aren't racist, that Pepe has and being used as a symbol of hate, and people seeing it associated with the clan may lead them to believe that they have that view?


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by False » Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:49 pm

my twitch has a pepe ban

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by Vermilion » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:29 pm

Pedz wrote:TBF, the Pepe thing is, I thought, common knowledge


Not to most people i suspect, i'd never even heard of it before let alone had any idea as to what it's been used for.

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by abcd » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:35 pm

Does Pepe the frog have anything to do with Pepe Jeans?

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by Jenuall » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:01 pm

Lets not forget the one true Pepe: Pepé Le Pew.

Similar to the far right, he also stinks.

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by Skarjo » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:31 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
Jenuall wrote:What the strawberry float is Pepe anyway?


TL;dr version - a popular webcomic character co-opted by the far right .



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by Jenuall » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:42 pm

Skarjo wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Jenuall wrote:What the strawberry float is Pepe anyway?


TL;dr version - a popular webcomic character co-opted by the far right .




I'll check that out tonight. I've been impressed by the other ContraPoints videos that I've seen people link to recently so I'm sure it will be another informative watch!

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by Rightey » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:42 pm

It's a frog guys, come on...

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by Karl » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:56 pm

Jenuall wrote:
Skarjo wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Jenuall wrote:What the strawberry float is Pepe anyway?


TL;dr version - a popular webcomic character co-opted by the far right .




I'll check that out tonight. I've been impressed by the other ContraPoints videos that I've seen people link to recently so I'm sure it will be another informative watch!


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by OrangeRKN » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:05 pm

Is there an easy way of getting transcripts of youtube videos? I'd quite like to read the above but watching the video is slow going.

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by Jenuall » Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:07 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:Is there an easy way of getting transcripts of youtube videos? I'd quite like to read the above but watching the video is slow going.

If videos have closed captions I believe you can generate a transcript of those, but I'm not sure how accurate the original captions are in general - I've seen some ridiculously bad captions on YT videos recently!

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