PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS (also NUT MILK)

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by Joer » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:29 pm

Did anyone try the Quorn Swedish Meatballs?

They were AMAZING but have been discontinued now and me and my fiancee haven't really recovered despite that happening over a year ago now.

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by Cuttooth » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:37 pm

Quorn made the best meat free hotdogs and they got rid of them. :(

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by Fade » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:45 am

Hime wrote:My main issue with the environmental aspects is are the people giving up meat also only buying seasonal produce or are they eating imported fruit and veg and eating substitutes that are massively industrialised? I can't believe that eating a chicken breast or even a steak from a local butcher who get their produce locally is worse than avocado on toast and an almond milk latte when that plate of food has its ingredients flown in from all over the world.

Chicken isn't too bad. But even still, think of all of the supplies that have to be shipped to a farm to look after the chickens in the first place, as well as having to grow food for them. Vegetables just get grown and shipped for the most part.

It's red meat that's the real big problem, they produce far more greenhouses gases and require many more resources to farm.

Also in regards to the whole "you need meat to have muscles" thing, where do people think the protein etc in animals comes from? Pretty much everything you get from meat you can get from plants in one form or another.

Speaking of Quorn, Wimpy do a Quorn burger and it's so good, they deliver too btw :D

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Choclet-Milk » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:26 am

Fade wrote:Speaking of Quorn, Wimpy do a Quorn burger and it's so good, they deliver too btw :D

Do their fries keep well in transit? It's a long way to go from 1995...

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Fade » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:28 am

Chocolate-Milk wrote:
Fade wrote:Speaking of Quorn, Wimpy do a Quorn burger and it's so good, they deliver too btw :D

Do their fries keep well in transit? It's a long way to go from 1995...

Yeah they do actually, I really l-

Oh I see what you did :oops:

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by Choclet-Milk » Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:43 am

I genuinely didn't know they were still going, I haven't seen one since I went to a bowling party in primary school! :slol:

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by Skarjo » Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:25 am

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by 7256930752 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:41 am

Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:My main issue with the environmental aspects is are the people giving up meat also only buying seasonal produce or are they eating imported fruit and veg and eating substitutes that are massively industrialised? I can't believe that eating a chicken breast or even a steak from a local butcher who get their produce locally is worse than avocado on toast and an almond milk latte when that plate of food has its ingredients flown in from all over the world.

Chicken isn't too bad. But even still, think of all of the supplies that have to be shipped to a farm to look after the chickens in the first place, as well as having to grow food for them. Vegetables just get grown and shipped for the most part.

It's red meat that's the real big problem, they produce far more greenhouses gases and require many more resources to farm.

Also in regards to the whole "you need meat to have muscles" thing, where do people think the protein etc in animals comes from? Pretty much everything you get from meat you can get from plants in one form or another.

Speaking of Quorn, Wimpy do a Quorn burger and it's so good, they deliver too btw :D

I'd be all for putting the price of red meat up to make it more sustainable but as for that argument flying is considered a major contributor to CO2 so flying in ingredients from all over the world for one plate of food surely must have at least comparable emissions to a cow that lives in a field eating grass.

I don't know enough about it too be honest but from what I understand plant based protein doesn't have all of the BCAA's that animal based protein does.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Fade » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:04 am

Hime wrote:
Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:My main issue with the environmental aspects is are the people giving up meat also only buying seasonal produce or are they eating imported fruit and veg and eating substitutes that are massively industrialised? I can't believe that eating a chicken breast or even a steak from a local butcher who get their produce locally is worse than avocado on toast and an almond milk latte when that plate of food has its ingredients flown in from all over the world.

Chicken isn't too bad. But even still, think of all of the supplies that have to be shipped to a farm to look after the chickens in the first place, as well as having to grow food for them. Vegetables just get grown and shipped for the most part.

It's red meat that's the real big problem, they produce far more greenhouses gases and require many more resources to farm.

Also in regards to the whole "you need meat to have muscles" thing, where do people think the protein etc in animals comes from? Pretty much everything you get from meat you can get from plants in one form or another.

Speaking of Quorn, Wimpy do a Quorn burger and it's so good, they deliver too btw :D

I'd be all for putting the price of red meat up to make it more sustainable but as for that argument flying is considered a major contributor to CO2 so flying in ingredients from all over the world for one plate of food surely must have at least comparable emissions to a cow that lives in a field eating grass.

I don't know enough about it too be honest but from what I understand plant based protein doesn't have all of the BCAA's that animal based protein does.

Cows produce methane which is far more impactful to global warming than Co2 is: https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -than-cars

Chocolate-Milk wrote:I genuinely didn't know they were still going, I haven't seen one since I went to a bowling party in primary school! :slol:

The one I order from has my town in its website URL so I can't imagine there are that many around :lol:

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by 7256930752 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:06 am

Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:
Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:My main issue with the environmental aspects is are the people giving up meat also only buying seasonal produce or are they eating imported fruit and veg and eating substitutes that are massively industrialised? I can't believe that eating a chicken breast or even a steak from a local butcher who get their produce locally is worse than avocado on toast and an almond milk latte when that plate of food has its ingredients flown in from all over the world.

Chicken isn't too bad. But even still, think of all of the supplies that have to be shipped to a farm to look after the chickens in the first place, as well as having to grow food for them. Vegetables just get grown and shipped for the most part.

It's red meat that's the real big problem, they produce far more greenhouses gases and require many more resources to farm.

Also in regards to the whole "you need meat to have muscles" thing, where do people think the protein etc in animals comes from? Pretty much everything you get from meat you can get from plants in one form or another.

Speaking of Quorn, Wimpy do a Quorn burger and it's so good, they deliver too btw :D

I'd be all for putting the price of red meat up to make it more sustainable but as for that argument flying is considered a major contributor to CO2 so flying in ingredients from all over the world for one plate of food surely must have at least comparable emissions to a cow that lives in a field eating grass.

I don't know enough about it too be honest but from what I understand plant based protein doesn't have all of the BCAA's that animal based protein does.

Cows produce methane which is far more impactful to global warming than Co2 is: https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -than-cars

So having less cows would help that problem or do you think we should just let them go extinct? That still wouldn't reduce those problems of a plant based diet.

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by Fade » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:11 am

Hime wrote:
Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:
Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:My main issue with the environmental aspects is are the people giving up meat also only buying seasonal produce or are they eating imported fruit and veg and eating substitutes that are massively industrialised? I can't believe that eating a chicken breast or even a steak from a local butcher who get their produce locally is worse than avocado on toast and an almond milk latte when that plate of food has its ingredients flown in from all over the world.

Chicken isn't too bad. But even still, think of all of the supplies that have to be shipped to a farm to look after the chickens in the first place, as well as having to grow food for them. Vegetables just get grown and shipped for the most part.

It's red meat that's the real big problem, they produce far more greenhouses gases and require many more resources to farm.

Also in regards to the whole "you need meat to have muscles" thing, where do people think the protein etc in animals comes from? Pretty much everything you get from meat you can get from plants in one form or another.

Speaking of Quorn, Wimpy do a Quorn burger and it's so good, they deliver too btw :D

I'd be all for putting the price of red meat up to make it more sustainable but as for that argument flying is considered a major contributor to CO2 so flying in ingredients from all over the world for one plate of food surely must have at least comparable emissions to a cow that lives in a field eating grass.

I don't know enough about it too be honest but from what I understand plant based protein doesn't have all of the BCAA's that animal based protein does.

Cows produce methane which is far more impactful to global warming than Co2 is: https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -than-cars

So having less cows would help that problem or do you think we should just let them go extinct? That still wouldn't reduce those problems of a plant based diet.

What problems?

No, not go extinct, but we need to reduce meat intake by a ton. It needs to be seen as more of a special thing rather than "hurr durr it's not a meal without meat, let's have some shitty watery ham in my sandwich because animals are disposable"

I'm not opposed to people eating meat, it'd just be nice if people reflected on the impact of eating it a bit more.

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PostRe: PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS (also NUT MILK)
by Dual » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:17 am

"You're a vegetarian! So you're happy for all the cows to die are you!? Are you!? What about all of the sheep and piggies? I thought you were meant to like animalz¿

Love that argument.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:19 am

This was more fun when we were guzzling nut milk.

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PostRe: PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS (also NUT MILK)
by Fade » Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:25 am

Oblomov Boblomov wrote:This was more fun when we were guzzling nut milk.

I could go for some nut milk

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PostRe: Coronavirus & stuff
by 7256930752 » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:05 pm

Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:
Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:
Fade wrote:
Hime wrote:My main issue with the environmental aspects is are the people giving up meat also only buying seasonal produce or are they eating imported fruit and veg and eating substitutes that are massively industrialised? I can't believe that eating a chicken breast or even a steak from a local butcher who get their produce locally is worse than avocado on toast and an almond milk latte when that plate of food has its ingredients flown in from all over the world.

Chicken isn't too bad. But even still, think of all of the supplies that have to be shipped to a farm to look after the chickens in the first place, as well as having to grow food for them. Vegetables just get grown and shipped for the most part.

It's red meat that's the real big problem, they produce far more greenhouses gases and require many more resources to farm.

Also in regards to the whole "you need meat to have muscles" thing, where do people think the protein etc in animals comes from? Pretty much everything you get from meat you can get from plants in one form or another.

Speaking of Quorn, Wimpy do a Quorn burger and it's so good, they deliver too btw :D

I'd be all for putting the price of red meat up to make it more sustainable but as for that argument flying is considered a major contributor to CO2 so flying in ingredients from all over the world for one plate of food surely must have at least comparable emissions to a cow that lives in a field eating grass.

I don't know enough about it too be honest but from what I understand plant based protein doesn't have all of the BCAA's that animal based protein does.

Cows produce methane which is far more impactful to global warming than Co2 is: https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -than-cars

So having less cows would help that problem or do you think we should just let them go extinct? That still wouldn't reduce those problems of a plant based diet.

What problems?

No, not go extinct, but we need to reduce meat intake by a ton. It needs to be seen as more of a special thing rather than "hurr durr it's not a meal without meat, let's have some shitty watery ham in my sandwich because animals are disposable"

I'm not opposed to people eating meat, it'd just be nice if people reflected on the impact of eating it a bit more.

The problem of flying produce in from all over the world, especially when some of it is heavily industrialised and it's impacting the areas that it's farmed, avocado's and almond milk for example.

So what I said then with regards to meat?

Dual wrote:"You're a vegetarian! So you're happy for all the cows to die are you!? Are you!? What about all of the sheep and piggies? I thought you were meant to like animalz¿

Love that argument.

What's even better is the overreaction from vegetarians. The argument was that cows produce methane and methane is bad so stop farming red meat. There was no mention of reduction or more ethical farming letting cows go extinct is the only logical solution. I mean is it out of the question if cow farming is that bad for the environment?

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PostRe: PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS (also NUT MILK)
by False » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:26 pm

I didnt know we had a veggie thread

Im a veggie and I like it

I dont agree with the supply chain and the environmental impact so thats why I abstain, dont eat fish either

vegan doesnt appeal as dairy is a big part of my diet and they put milk powder and egg protein in everything

quorn and linda mccartney is really good

Im not militant though, I dont see why I wouldnt eat like a well sourced amazingly prepared steak in a restaurant once a year or something

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PostRe: PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS (also NUT MILK)
by False » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:27 pm

cows wont go extinct, they just wont be bred so relentlessly and in such numbers

same with chickens, pigs etc

they tend to have really bad lives on the whole

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by False » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:30 pm

also Im surprised gr has so many veggies and vegans, good boys

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PostRe: PLANTS PLANTS PLANTS (also NUT MILK)
by KK » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:32 pm

Cuttooth wrote:Quorn made the best meat free hotdogs and they got rid of them. :(

Their breakfast patties seem to have vanished as well.

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by Rex Kramer » Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:49 pm

KK wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:Quorn made the best meat free hotdogs and they got rid of them. :(

Their breakfast patties seem to have vanished as well.

I think there is a general shortage in the marketplace for Quorn products at the moment. There was a period after Christmas where our local Tesco didn't even have Quorn sausages. Maybe it's a massive increase in demand or maybe their product got shifted towards supplying manufacturers like Greggs.


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