jawa wrote:Jenuall wrote:OrangeRKN wrote:Jenuall wrote:I still don't get the need for folders myself. I tried to use the feature on my PS4 for the first time the other day and it was just confusing more than anything!
I can accept that I'm possibly in the minority but I just love that my Switch is such a "game focused" device. I power it on, it gives me a big list of my games and lets me jump right in and play them - the whole thing is slick and fast and responsive. The PS4 seems to go out of its way to throw other crap in my face that I'm just not interested in and is slow as a dead dog to navigate at the best of times!
I have three folders on PS4 - singleplayer, multiplayer and Jak (
). It makes finding the right game easier because they aren't all mixed up in one long line with media apps and the like. I don't know how it could be confusing!
It'd be great to have folders on Switch so that I could stick all the local multiplayer games in a folder. Then when I go to play with friends, we could easily browse through what to play rather than having to mentally filter out the singleplayer games. It'd also be helpful in finding games if they weren't only arranged by order of last played or order of total playtime!
The implementation of it was just terrible. I couldn't find a way to mark the items I wanted to add into a folder, it wasn't clear why I couldn't just hide certain items or whether they always needed to be present, there are loads of icons that I'm just not interested in - PS5, PSNOW, all sorts of media things - I want to get rid of those but it won't let me, I want to put them in a folder to hide them but that just moves them to a more prominent position in front of everything else!
It's the worst of both worlds between the customisation of a PC and the streamlined nature of a console. I'll take the simple and fast Switch UI any day of the week.
OrangeRKN wrote:I'm not going to defend the PS4 UI because it sucks, but folders definitely make it better than without folders! You just press options and select "Add to folder". The folders still obey the same ordering as any other app - most recently used appears on the left - but the folders will take the position of the most recently used game/app within the folder. I'm not sure but creating the folder might automatically put it on the left as most recently used but as soon as you start launching other things it will fall down the list, so you should be able to hide away the things you aren't interested in.
The speed of the PS4 UI is awful and Switch is loads better, but I don't think that's because of a lack of folders! The PS4 UI was just as bad before they added in folders iirc.
(Continued from the Switch thread!)I like the PS4 UI and I love the folders
. It's not turbo-speed but I find it okay to use; and folders are a must for organising lots of games. I wonder if it's a disc/download thing? I went digital on my PS4 and so have a fair few digital games; the folders allow me to tidy them up into "Action", "Sport", RPG", "PS Plus" etc. I could see how they're probably not as useful for disc versions, though.
Jen, all those apps can be tidied up into a single folder to get them out of the way. And you can arrange the games/apps order within the folder to suit your own preferences, too.
For me it's about the distance between me and the games, which UI is going to act as bigger barrier in that instance is going to depend on a bunch of factors like the number of games you own, the number you actively play concurrently etc.
I probably have about 40 games on Switch and find getting into them a breeze - the most recently played ones are always there in big icons on the first screen and the full list (sortable in useful ways) is but a button click away. It's incredibly easy for me to see what I want and play it.
On PS4 I probably have a similar number of games (mostly via PS+) but they are hidden amongst a bunch of stuff I have not interest in on the main screen, I've never used most of the apps that appear on the first screen so I don't know why Sony keep pushing them at me! I can look in the "library" to see more but this is organised poorly with titles grouped in odd places and harder to find.
The Switch gives me very quick visibility of "what I'm playing now" and "everything else I have" which I just don't get on PS4.
For some with many, many games I can believe that sorting into folders is worthwhile but for me it's not necessary and I prefer the Switch approach where as a user the default experience "just works" for me, compared to the Sony one where it feels like I have to do something to overcome their initial configuration