Playstation 5 Showcase - PS5 £449 & PS5: DE £359, out 19th Nov in the UK. Pre-orders have started.

Mafro wrote:What games are on the is PS Plus library thing?

Looked like every exclusive released before 2019 to me.

Mafro wrote:What games are on the is PS Plus library thing?

I want to know this as well, but can't find anything definitive. The PS blog says:

For PlayStation Plus members, we’ll have a special new offering on PS5 – the PlayStation Plus Collection**. PS5 owners with PS Plus will be able to download and play a curated library of PS4 games that defined the generation, like Batman Arkham Knight, Bloodborne, Fallout 4, God of War, Monster Hunter: World, Persona 5 and many more. The PS Plus Collection will be an added benefit to the existing PS4 benefits that PS Plus members receive for a single subscription price.

Everywhere else is just listing the games featured in the trailer.

Bit worried that they're not even committing to all first party PS4 exclusives on that.

Mafro wrote:What games are on the is PS Plus library thing?

I got the impression it's everything that's ever been on PS Plus before but I could be wrong. God of War and Resident Evil 7 were shown and neither of them have been on Plus yet so they must be coming either next month or November.

KK wrote:Accessories priced up too,

DualSense™ Wireless Controller (standalone) – US$69.99/¥6,980/€69.99 (RRP)
PULSE 3D™ wireless headset – with 3D audio support and dual noise-cancelling microphones US$99.99/¥9,980/€99.99 (RRP)
HD Camera – with dual 1080p lenses for gamers to broadcast themselves along with their epic gameplay moments US$59.99/¥5,980/€59.99 (RRP)
Media Remote – to navigate movies and streaming services with ease US$29.99/¥2,980/€29.99 (RRP)
DualSense™ Charging Station – to conveniently charge two DualSense Wireless Controllers US$29.99/¥2,980/€29.99 (RRP)

God I really want one of those controllers. They're gorgeous. But €70 is pushing it I think.

God of War and Resi 7 on the list is handy since I was going to buy them anyway.

Why wouldn’t you just buy the cheaper PS4 version of a game and take the supposedly free PS5 upgrade?

Digital game prices on the Store are going to be properly insane though.

So Microsoft believe in 'no person left behind' claiming they will release all their new games on both generations, then reverse their decision with their future games.
And Sony 'believe in generations' but now their new PS5 exclusives will be coming to PS4.

What a load of crap!

KK wrote:Why wouldn’t you just buy the cheaper PS4 version of a game and take the supposedly free PS5 upgrade?

Digital game prices on the Store are going to be properly insane though.

I know I'll certainly be buying the PS4 version of anything that has a free upgrade. It's seems crazy to do anything else. If you buy the disc version of the console you end up saving £15-£20 per game.

Venom wrote:So Microsoft believe in 'no person left behind' claiming they will release all their new games on both generations, then reverse their decision with their future games.
And Sony 'believe in generations' but now their new PS5 exclusives will be coming to PS4.

What a load of crap!

It's all very weird.

I feel like there’s a lot of negativity suddenly bubbled up from their post show blog posts. Particularly a few things being crossgen. They still have more ‘next generation exclusives’ than Xbox but probably shouldn’t have made such a big deal out of saying they weren’t going to do crossgen stuff if this was the plan.

How long in advance would they have needed to make these games also available on PS4? Because it would indicate something has changed at Sony compared to their messaging at the start of the year. Limited availability of PS5? A belief sales are going to be very slow?

With these game prices and barely any exclusive titles, I’m sure this will cause quite a few people to delay purchasing a PS5.

Yeah, nothing about next gen is appealing right now. I’m happy to stick with my PS4 Pro especially with PS5 games costing £70 a pop.

The showcase was ok but yeah, the post show messages have really tanked the hype that might have been there

Venom wrote:So Microsoft believe in 'no person left behind' claiming they will release all their new games on both generations, then reverse their decision with their future games.
And Sony 'believe in generations' but now their new PS5 exclusives will be coming to PS4.

What a load of crap!

Just as the question was posed with the Xbox and games like Halo, how Horizon 2 can run on a base PS4 while also taking advantage of the PS5 ‘from the ground up’ is beyond me. Very confused messaging.

Yoshimi wrote:

Additionally, we know that the PS4 community will transition to PS5 at different times, and we’re happy to announce PS4 versions of some of our exclusives. Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, and Horizon Forbidden West will also launch on PS4. While these three games were designed to take advantage of PS5 and its unique next-gen features like the ultra-high-speed SSD and DualSense controller, PS4 owners will also be able to enjoy these experiences when they launch. The PS4 digital versions of launch games include a free upgrade on both PS5 consoles, while the PS4 disc versions of these games include a free upgrade on the PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray disc drive.

So buy the cheaper PS4 version, and upgrade to the ps5 version for free?!

Sounds that way, and you get to play across gens too? Double trophies too perhaps?

Monkey Man wrote:

Venom wrote:So Microsoft believe in 'no person left behind' claiming they will release all their new games on both generations, then reverse their decision with their future games.
And Sony 'believe in generations' but now their new PS5 exclusives will be coming to PS4.

What a load of crap!

It's all very weird.

KK wrote:Just as the question was posed with the Xbox and games like Halo, how Horizon 2 can run on a base PS4 while also taking advantage of the PS5 ‘from the ground up’ is beyond me. Very confused messaging.

Information has been so late out this generation about the new consoles that I don't think the delay has been purely Covid related. Besides constantly changing facts about what may be complete in time for launch I suspect both Phil Spencer and Jim Ryan have been uncertain about the correct course of action for their respective consoles and have taken their time to react to each other and the public. They need some gumption.

I think it was in a Dickens book that there was this old couple who would go to bed arguing about anything and everything with each other. But so good were they at arguing their point of view that in the morning they would wake up arguing the opposite opinion.

PSVR still being supported? Any know?

I didn’t see Xbox having more exclusives (announced) for next gen only. Isn’t Halo
infinite The only cross gen exclusive coming on Xbox? I hope they drop that version tbh.

Demons Souls looks lush.

Superfurryfox64 wrote:PSVR still being supported? Any know?

Yes.
PS4 games with backwards compatibility. Some PS5 games will have support for PSVR such as Hitman 3.
I believe, but can't recall, there might be a PS5 only game that will have PSVR support.

An interesting point. It's black Friday the week after launch. Hoping some deals on peripherals and controllers
Will be available.

The new Spider-Man being cross-gen, I sort of get...but the new Horizon too? Are they actually taking the piss? Was the first one amazing? Yes. Did it look and play the tits on a PS4 Pro? Yes. But at the same time...I’m moving on £450 worth here, you can’t convince us that it’s worth the investment.
And in white?! Na.