PlayStation Classic

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Favourite PlayStation classic game/series

Metal Gear Solid
16
22%
Resident Evil
10
14%
Final Fantasy
11
15%
Tomb Raider
5
7%
Gran Turismo
6
8%
Tekken
1
1%
Crash Bandicoot
3
4%
WipEout
3
4%
Ridge Racer
4
6%
Parappa the Rapper
1
1%
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
6
8%
Other
6
8%
 
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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by IAmTheSaladMan » Mon Jul 22, 2019 5:00 pm

I remember that game being rather ambitious for the time. It was a precursor of sorts to the kind of sandbox games that are commonplace today. It was gooseberry fool, but at least it was ambitious gooseberry fool.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by Ironhide » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:59 pm

Abacus wrote:On another note, just scanning around online, it does seem that the ps classic is the modders' console of choice.

I'm guessing that's a combination of the fact there are loads of them, that Sony seem to have been pretty slack with their own software security (seemingly using a third party emulator themselves), having accessible USB ports, and also having chips that are capable of delivering better performance than their own included software demonstrated.

I've seen some people on YouTube install a raspberry pi inside it, which looks like a fun project for people who are into that sort of thing, but seems to me that in that case you're basically just getting the classic for the shell.

I've not installed Autobleem yet, but that seems like a fun and relatively simple project to do, not least because even if you don't use it to play any other games you have, you can use it to improve the display options for the games that come with the machine. So, I might give it a go to see how it works.

The one thing I've been thinking about, though is the copyright position if I did download other stuff, or just play one of the preloaded sticks from amazon or wherever. Mainly I've been thinking that it's weird that there is almost no other way to play some of these games.

As one example; one of the preloaded packs you can buy on one of the true blue sticks is a little known (and little missed) game called Batman and Robin, based on the terrible (and little missed) film. Now, already that is a mess of image rights and licensing agreements.

But however bad it was, to some kid somewhere at the time that will be one of their favourite games, and as an adult they'll want to play it for the nostalgia rush. Yet, no-one is selling it digitally anywhere, so you can't play it. Unless you still own the disc and a machine that supports it, that game is lost forever.

And yet at the same time, no-one is making any money off it either. According to wiki, it was released under licence by Acclaim (now deceased), and developed by a studio they worked with called Probe Entertainment (also no more).

On going bust, Acclaim sold on their remaining IPs to others, but I doubt that included this game, as it was licenced by Warner Bros and DC Comics. Neither of whom seen under any immediate rush to release that game anywhere else, even if they were able to, themselves.

So, who loses out by them including this game? Not anyone involved in making or licensing it, not Sony who have already sold you the console and aren't selling extra games (and probably couldn't unravel the rights here even if they were).

Probably just you if you play it, I suspect


I wouldn't worry about breaking copyright law, the console isn't online so it's not like Sony are going to brick it remotely.

Besides, were talking about 20 year old games, Sony probably don't care.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by Ad7 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:39 pm

I hate the UI on this thing so much, I'm going to recreate the original PAL menu graphics as a custom theme :datass:

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by Ironhide » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:09 pm

Trying to install Autobleem but noticed the zip file I downloaded from github doesn't have the "system" folder which is shown in several tutorial videos.

What is it and where do I get it from?

Also, which USB stick is everyone using?

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by Cheeky Devlin » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:41 pm

Abacus wrote:On another note, just scanning around online, it does seem that the ps classic is the modders' console of choice.

I'm guessing that's a combination of the fact there are loads of them, that Sony seem to have been pretty slack with their own software security (seemingly using a third party emulator themselves), having accessible USB ports, and also having chips that are capable of delivering better performance than their own included software demonstrated.

I've seen some people on YouTube install a raspberry pi inside it, which looks like a fun project for people who are into that sort of thing, but seems to me that in that case you're basically just getting the classic for the shell.

I've not installed Autobleem yet, but that seems like a fun and relatively simple project to do, not least because even if you don't use it to play any other games you have, you can use it to improve the display options for the games that come with the machine. So, I might give it a go to see how it works.

The one thing I've been thinking about, though is the copyright position if I did download other stuff, or just play one of the preloaded sticks from amazon or wherever. Mainly I've been thinking that it's weird that there is almost no other way to play some of these games.

As one example; one of the preloaded packs you can buy on one of the true blue sticks is a little known (and little missed) game called Batman and Robin, based on the terrible (and little missed) film. Now, already that is a mess of image rights and licensing agreements.

But however bad it was, to some kid somewhere at the time that will be one of their favourite games, and as an adult they'll want to play it for the nostalgia rush. Yet, no-one is selling it digitally anywhere, so you can't play it. Unless you still own the disc and a machine that supports it, that game is lost forever.

And yet at the same time, no-one is making any money off it either. According to wiki, it was released under licence by Acclaim (now deceased), and developed by a studio they worked with called Probe Entertainment (also no more).

On going bust, Acclaim sold on their remaining IPs to others, but I doubt that included this game, as it was licenced by Warner Bros and DC Comics. Neither of whom seen under any immediate rush to release that game anywhere else, even if they were able to, themselves.

So, who loses out by them including this game? Not anyone involved in making or licensing it, not Sony who have already sold you the console and aren't selling extra games (and probably couldn't unravel the rights here even if they were).

Probably just you if you play it, I suspect


This is exactly why emulation is so important, especially for less popular or just flat out "bad" games. There's no danger of Super Mario Bros ever disappearing, but something like this Batman and Robin game would have sold poorly, and be caught up in such a tangle of rights messes that it's just not worth the money and time to sort it out and re-release it. Meaning that eventually, all the physical copies will be dead and only emulation will remain to make it playable.

Most companies don't care enough about the preservation of these things to do anything about it.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by Ironhide » Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:14 pm

I wrote:Trying to install Autobleem but noticed the zip file I downloaded from github doesn't have the "system" folder which is shown in several tutorial videos.

What is it and where do I get it from?

Also, which USB stick is everyone using?


Sorted it, was having trouble getting it to install, the USB stick my brother was using was the problem, tried a different one and it worked.

Currently looking for a 64GB one and have seen this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Cruzer-64GB-Flash-Drive/dp/B07MDXBTL1/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

The 2018 version supposedly works with the PS Classic but is £40 (probably due to everyone moddingtheir classic), the 2019 version (which I imagine is almost identical) is £9.99 so I'll probably take my chances with that.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by kerr9000 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:31 pm

that looks like the first one I tried to use which didnt work.... The one I am currently using is

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00LZS5EJS/ ... UTF8&psc=1

I tried a bunch it seemed quiet hit and miss.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by KjGarly » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:20 pm


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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by Ironhide » Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:53 pm

The Sandisk one works fine although it was a bit of a faff trying to format it to FAT32 as Windows won't do it for drives over 32GB so had to download a third party utility to do it, I did try using the command prompt/powershell but it was taking ages.

I've come to the realisation that USB transfer speeds are woefully inadequate.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by Ironhide » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:00 pm

Also, if I wanted to rip some of my old ps1 games and put them on the classic, how would I go about it, theoretically speaking?

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by kerr9000 » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:48 pm

I used some CD copying software I can't rember which though as I'm at my girlfriend's house and my laptop with it on is at home

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by KK » Sun Jul 28, 2019 7:57 pm

I used to put PlayStation discs in a CD player and sometimes was rather surprised at what ended up being on there. I don’t know why there was audio stuff left on the discs, usually with absolutely nothing to do with the game, but there it was.

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PostRe: PlayStation Classic
by KjGarly » Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:16 pm

Ironhide wrote:Also, if I wanted to rip some of my old ps1 games and put them on the classic, how would I go about it, theoretically speaking?


Maybe PSX2PSP, I used it to convert ISO files to PSP format which worked with PSOne games to use on the Classic.

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