PlayStation Classic
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Preezy
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It is. Such a shame it's been a missed opportunity 
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Jazzem wrote:To be honest I would recommend trying to buy off the US PSN if you can, the vast majority of the UK PSN PS1 Classics are 50Hz. There are exceptions (RE2-3, Spyro, Tomba, Klonoa, Alundra and any JP only imports off the top of my head) but the vast majority will be affected. The RPGs can be especially brutal for this:
Is a shame as this becomes a pain when swapping accounts on PSP+Vita, where the PS1 Classics really shine the best. Had a blast going through MGS1, RE1-3, Castlevania: SoTN and FF7 for the first time several years back on PSP
On the Giant Bomb Cast they were saying that the American version uses the European roms for some reason.
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Jazzem
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lex-man wrote:On the Giant Bomb Cast they were saying that the American version uses the European roms for some reason.
To that:
These are the NTSC versions of the original releases, except the following which are the PAL versions: Battle Arena Toshinden, Cool Boarders 2, Destruction Derby, Grand Theft Auto, Jumping Flash!, Oddoworld: Abe’s Oddysee, Resident Evil Director’s Cut, Tekken 3, Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2018/11 ... er-launch/
If those aren't forced to 60hz...
Granted that may not work in cases where the games were optimized but I know Resident Evil and Tekken 3 at the very least definitely weren't, I suspect Battle Arena Toshinden and a few other early titles weren't either.Amusingly this would make this a very rare case of US folks getting 50Hz releases, only other case I can think of is them getting the PAL Vib Ribbon as a PSN PS1 download
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Jazzem
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Here we go! Reviews summary nicked from Resetera:
Looks like a dud sadly.
Gamespot: No Score
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/plays ... 0-6463467/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpPMUC5DRRU
IGN US: 5.5
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/11/27 ... sic-review
IGN UK: 5.5
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2018/11/27/ ... sic-review
Kotaku: No Score
https://kotaku.com/playstation-classic- ... 1830668016
Apparently, Tekken 3 has frame rate problems too. This is the NA version too.
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...well never mind
Looks like a dud sadly.
Gamespot: No Score
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/plays ... 0-6463467/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpPMUC5DRRU
I'd like nothing more than to tell you that the PS Classic is a pleasant surprise, that it will match your excitement and then some. This sadly isn't the case, and short of Sony refreshing it, or the hacking community breaking it open and reconfiguring it, the PS Classic may never be more than a puny PlayStation with good looks.
IGN US: 5.5
https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/11/27 ... sic-review
IGN UK: 5.5
https://uk.ign.com/articles/2018/11/27/ ... sic-review
Kotaku: No Score
https://kotaku.com/playstation-classic- ... 1830668016
Just last year, a PlayStation executive went on the record to ask why anyone would still want to play these “ancient” games. Clearly, Sony at large believes people would. But instead of a PlayStation Classic that really celebrates the shared love for this bygone era of games, it’s a product that feels like it was delivered in the spirit of “Oh, you guys still like these old games? Well, here this is, we guess.” The PlayStation’s games are still beautiful, but the wrapping around them is something like putting a Picasso into an $8.99 plastic frame.
Apparently, Tekken 3 has frame rate problems too. This is the NA version too.
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...well never mind
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Jazzem
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Whelp, it gets worse; even the NTSC titles aren't safe
Eurogamer write up
It seems performance and frame timing in general is an issue, the writeup of Jumping Flash speaks of it having a 30% reduction in fps over the original NTSC version
Most to all games from that era tied game logic to frame rate, so often in NTSC-PAL conversions games ran slower since that's 10 frames less per second to execute actions. The version of Tekken 3 on the Classic not only will run about 18% slower than it should, it'll be juddery since the Classic's output is otherwise at 60hz and so every fifth frame has to be duplicated. It'll be the same speed as you remember it on PAL but noticeably less smooth
Eurogamer write up
It seems performance and frame timing in general is an issue, the writeup of Jumping Flash speaks of it having a 30% reduction in fps over the original NTSC version
KK wrote:50Hz doesn't bother me because I won't know any better, but if games run worse than their EU disc based copies then that's really shambolic. I don't recall Tekken 3 having any framerate issues, but then maybe it did?
Most to all games from that era tied game logic to frame rate, so often in NTSC-PAL conversions games ran slower since that's 10 frames less per second to execute actions. The version of Tekken 3 on the Classic not only will run about 18% slower than it should, it'll be juddery since the Classic's output is otherwise at 60hz and so every fifth frame has to be duplicated. It'll be the same speed as you remember it on PAL but noticeably less smooth
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KK
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Wow, that's really inexcusable. Taking games that already look shonky on a HDTV and making them run even worse. 
Judder drives me mental when watching football on NowTV.
I really don't understand this decision at all.
Judder drives me mental when watching football on NowTV.
However, it's understood that proprietary emulation developed by Sony itself was used on those systems, while the small print suggests that the PlayStation Classic uses a mobile port of the PCSX emulator instead.
I really don't understand this decision at all.
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