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Balladeer wrote:^ Much more valid complaint. My main technical gripe with the series is that we're eight gens in and they still have the nonsense synthesised cries.

that one i put down to nostalgia. like when they use the old mario jump sound effect

What were the last technically impressive pokemon games anyway... gold/silver on GBC?

I much prefer how this looks to the Diamond/Pearl remakes. Pokemon animation, contextual behaviour in the environment, and draw distance are more important than visual fidelity I think - the wild areas in Sword/Shield were let down by the stupidly close pop-in and the pokemon just being layered on top of the environment rather than interacting with it. Hopefully this is a large step up from that.

Balladeer wrote:^ Much more valid complaint. My main technical gripe with the series is that we're eight gens in and they still have the nonsense synthesised cries.

That would mean they would have to put the proper cries in every language that the game lets you choose, and given that Game Freak are seemingly gooseberry fool at compression, it would probably result in the graphics looking even worse.

Balladeer wrote:To try (desperately) to get this onto another conversation topic: if you are buying this, what starter are you going to go for? I think they've picked a really balanced selection with no wrong choices... so long as you don't go for Cyndaquil for nostalgia alone, of course.

I'll be going for Rowlet, who is my favourite starter of all time. Cute ball -> ninja Edgeworth -> awkward nerd ghost archer. What's not to love?

Thanks for steering this towards a more positive note, the last few pages have been a bit fatiguing to read. I'm all for different opinions, but SOME people seem to have lost the art of healthy debate...

Anyway interestingly I normally always go for the water type starter for a first playthrough and I think they've done a great job at choosing 3 that fit with the aesthetic of the region and the time... But I think I'll be choosing Rowlet as my starter this time. In my eyes it seems to fit the best with the kind of journey I imagine taking!

YASS good man! Although like I said there isn't a 'bad man' choice among the options apart from pure nostalgia picks that ignore the designs (Robbo ). And yep, the ninja owl and Samurai otter fit pretty well with the game. As for Cyndaquil... I guess home-made explosives?

I've not played much Pokémon - only Lets Go, really - but I do like the idea of a more open world to explore. The graphics looked okay to me; simple but neat and - again, as a non-expert! - they seem to fit with the series. I'll be keeping an eye out for previews and viewpoints.

Balladeer wrote:YASS good man! Although like I said there isn't a 'bad man' choice among the options apart from pure nostalgia picks that ignore the designs (Robbo ). And yep, the ninja owl and Samurai otter fit pretty well with the game. As for Cyndaquil... I guess home-made explosives?

PatSharpsMullet wrote:

Balladeer wrote:^ Much more valid complaint. My main technical gripe with the series is that we're eight gens in and they still have the nonsense synthesised cries.

That would mean they would have to put the proper cries in every language that the game lets you choose, and given that Game Freak are seemingly gooseberry fool at compression, it would probably result in the graphics looking even worse.

Worth it IMO.

archer owl

Second (and best) phase definitely giving off those ninja vibes to me.

What have you got against top tier pokemon Typhlosion?

Cyndaquil is the cutest of the starters and Typhlosion is the most fearsome of the final evolutions. Thematically he fits fine too as the most animalistic.

Imagine thinking any starter besides Rowlet is the cutest.

He is the funniest but I would rather give cyndaquil pets

Balladeer wrote:

Second (and best) phase definitely giving off those ninja vibes to me.

He’s still an archer

OrangeRKN wrote:What have you got against top tier pokemon Typhlosion?

Cyndaquil is the cutest of the starters and Typhlosion is the most fearsome of the final evolutions. Thematically he fits fine too as the most animalistic.

It's just hulking and ugly. By far my least favourite of the three finals. This is from the point of view of someone who really likes Cyndaquil and Quilava!

Balladeer wrote:YASS good man! Although like I said there isn't a 'bad man' choice among the options apart from pure nostalgia picks that ignore the designs (Robbo ). And yep, the ninja owl and Samurai otter fit pretty well with the game. As for Cyndaquil... I guess home-made explosives?

PatSharpsMullet wrote:

Balladeer wrote:^ Much more valid complaint. My main technical gripe with the series is that we're eight gens in and they still have the nonsense synthesised cries.

That would mean they would have to put the proper cries in every language that the game lets you choose, and given that Game Freak are seemingly gooseberry fool at compression, it would probably result in the graphics looking even worse.

Worth it IMO.

This seems to be the best explanation for Cyndaquil's inclusion:

Finally, there's Cyndaquil. This is much more of a stretch but is likely the reason the Fire-type was included, given the theme. Typhlosion is the final evolution of Cyndaquil and in Japanese, Typhlosion's name is Bakphoon. This is incredibly similar to bakufu, which is the Japanese word for shogun – the title given to military generals in feudal Japan.

https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/pokemon-legends-arceus-starters/

Balladeer wrote:

OrangeRKN wrote:What have you got against top tier pokemon Typhlosion?

Cyndaquil is the cutest of the starters and Typhlosion is the most fearsome of the final evolutions. Thematically he fits fine too as the most animalistic.

It's just hulking and ugly. By far my least favourite of the three finals. This is from the point of view of someone who really likes Cyndaquil and Quilava!

you are dead inside

The only one of the 3 I’m not a fan of is Oshawott, or in actual fact Samurott! Oshawott and Dewott have superb designs but that just seems to go out of the window for Samurott where they do the biped to quadruped thing. Samurott obviously fits in with the theme of the game very well though.

Cyndaquil isn’t even my fave gen 2 starter either, that’s Chikorita I only ever chose Rowlet in my SM/USUM runs as well, by far the strongest of the trio.

Robbo-92 wrote:The only one of the 3 I’m not a fan of is Oshawott, or in actual fact Samurott! Oshawott and Dewott have superb designs but that just seems to go out of the window for Samurott where they do the biped to quadruped thing. Samurott obviously fits in with the theme of the game very well though.

Cyndaquil isn’t even my fave gen 2 starter either, that’s Chikorita I only ever chose Rowlet in my SM/USUM runs as well, by far the strongest of the trio.

You too are dead inside

I'm currently on a run through Gale of Darkness again, and couldn't help but formulate a theory having seen the latest trailer for this. Pokémon can turn into their enraged state naturally, or so it seems from the trailer. Cipher researched this enraged state to the point where they could force it to happen, but needed a means to control them when in that enraged state. Hence, they forced that enraged state beyond a 'mon's normal limits which had the effect of making those 'mon emotionless until ready to attack. Reverse Mode is what happens when a Pokémon fights against that artificial manipulation, which weakens that manipulation until such effects can be reversed.

Of course, we don't know much about the enraged mode from Legends at the minute, so it could be some sort of natural manipulation that turns them that way, or a Legendary that's controlling them. In which case the theory falls flat. But it's fun to speculate.

This is in no way another plea for Colosseum and Gale of Darkness to be remastered with a third game continuing the story of the shadows.

DarkRula wrote:I'm currently on a run through Gale of Darkness again, and couldn't help but formulate a theory having seen the latest trailer for this. Pokémon can turn into their enraged state naturally, or so it seems from the trailer. Cipher researched this enraged state to the point where they could force it to happen, but needed a means to control them when in that enraged state. Hence, they forced that enraged state beyond a 'mon's normal limits which had the effect of making those 'mon emotionless until ready to attack. Reverse Mode is what happens when a Pokémon fights against that artificial manipulation, which weakens that manipulation until such effects can be reversed.

Of course, we don't know much about the enraged mode from Legends at the minute, so it could be some sort of natural manipulation that turns them that way, or a Legendary that's controlling them. In which case the theory falls flat. But it's fun to speculate.

This is in no way another plea for Colosseum and Gale of Darkness to be remastered with a third game continuing the story of the shadows.

well i think we can rule out the thing that made pokemon aggressive in detective pikachu

I just thought it’d be Arceus making them go on a small rampage, in the first trailer for this Arceus had red eyes as did the Pokémon we saw in the recent trailer.