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Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:12 pm
by Rex McGee
Where the strawberry float is the rail???? ;)

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:14 pm
by Psychic
I am railing. TID.

Managed to bust out earlier getting AA in against QQ lol 2 outers.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:17 pm
by Rex McGee
PsychicSykes wrote:I am railing. TID.

Managed to bust out earlier getting AA in against QQ lol 2 outers.


Yeah sniffer said. We are on TS if you wish to join us.

Also sexace, huuuuge bloody blue whale at the table is awesome. VPIP 42% and nearly 100 hands played now. K2 vs AA vs TT for his tourney life was the best.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:48 pm
by satriales
I would rail but it won't let me unless I create an account and I don't want to do that right now.

Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.50 KO No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2000/t4000 Blinds + t500 - 7 players - View hand 446933
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

CO: t28564 M = 3.01
BTN: t18440 M = 1.94
SB: t11330 M = 1.19
Hero (BB): t89470 M = 9.42
UTG: t36000 M = 3.79
UTG+1: t27450 M = 2.89
MP: t58746 M = 6.18

Pre Flop: (t9500) Hero is BB with TImage 6Image
4 folds, BTN raises to t17940 all in, SB calls t8830 all in, Hero calls t13940

Flop: (t50210) 9Image 7Image 4Image

Turn: (t50210) 2Image

River: (t50210) 8Image

Final Pot: t50210
BTN shows AImage AImage (a pair of Aces)
SB shows QImage 9Image (a pair of Nines)
Hero shows TImage 6Image (a straight, Ten high)
Hero wins t14220
Hero wins t35990

Edit: And I just TID for $144 8-) :mrgreen:

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:54 pm
by Red Devil
How come you decided to play that hand? I'd be folding it the plague.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 10:59 pm
by satriales
Sled Devil wrote:How come you decided to play that hand? I'd be folding it the plague.

I wasn't sure whether I should be playing it or not but I was chipleader and even if I played and lost I would still be chipleader so figured there wasn't much risk but a fair chance of knocking out two players. I didn't expect either of them to have a decent hand so I was unlucky to run into AA but then got very lucky and made a straight.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:52 pm
by satriales
Anyone else see this? http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/pokerstars-world-record-2nd-place-bust-670142/

The guy who came 2nd in the world record tourney winning $30,000 decided to play some high stakes cash games and lost it all in a day. He went from playing 0.01c tournaments a couple of weeks ago to $200/$400 cash games after his win, and in 37 hands he was down 35 buy-ins ($15k) :shock: :fp: :lol:

I looked up the guy who came 1st and he was also a losing player before his win, he was down about $4k.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:15 am
by Nova
That's ridiculous! :lol:

I'm playing 4 10$ SnGs atm, and still running under EV, as I have all month. Lost with a set vs a 4 flush, then AK vs AQ, then finally with JJ into AK. I was big stack a few times, but I kept losing my 60/40s and flush draws always came for the other player, but never for me, so meh. Almost -$130 in EV! I've only won $190 :lol:

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 1:43 am
by Oblomov Boblomov
Well I've had some horrendous cards tonight. I played three tournaments and the best hand I had in any of them was A2d or ATo, whichever one you think is best. Most of my roll is now gone :(.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:43 am
by Rex McGee
Nova wrote:That's ridiculous! :lol:

I'm playing 4 10$ SnGs atm, and still running under EV, as I have all month. Lost with a set vs a 4 flush, then AK vs AQ, then finally with JJ into AK. I was big stack a few times, but I kept losing my 60/40s and flush draws always came for the other player, but never for me, so meh. Almost -$130 in EV! I've only won $190 :lol:


The thing with EV is once you are under it, you have a greater probability of staying under it. The further you are away, the less likely you are to return. Quite scary then for me! I am running $1384 under EV. That's more than most people here have for a roll. I find this v annoying but you just have to deal with it. There will be lots of variance over small samples of games. I intend to get to about 600 games this month and next month play a similar amount. Try and grind them out and in the long run things will be fine!

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Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:Well I've had some horrendous cards tonight. I played three tournaments and the best hand I had in any of them was A2d or ATo, whichever one you think is best. Most of my roll is now gone :(.


ATo.

How much? If you are losing most of your roll in a few tournaments you need to play lower stakes.

Came 27th in the big freeze for £150, £15 going to Aaron and Drumstick each. Was fairly meh towards the end.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:54 am
by Nova
Shame more people didn't get deeper in The Big Freeze, but well done Rex. Yeah fair enough. That graph is particularly epic too :shock:

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:03 am
by Rex McGee
Yeah everyone seemed to run into crap spots early on/get it in well ahead and lose. I just got lucky to spin it up. Back to the grind!

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:09 pm
by Ecno
Rex took half my chips when he failed to respect my UTG raise. :shifty:

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:01 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Rex McGee wrote:
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:Well I've had some horrendous cards tonight. I played three tournaments and the best hand I had in any of them was A2d or ATo, whichever one you think is best. Most of my roll is now gone :(.


ATo.

How much? If you are losing most of your roll in a few tournaments you need to play lower stakes.


Well I lost with ATo and trebled up with A2d ;).

I shouldn't be complaining, really. I came to PokerStars as an absolute noob, deposited $20, built it up a little then lost it all; deposited another $20 and from that I've still got around $13 left after about two months of learning. I'm going to 3 table $4.40 SnG games and see what I'm left with. It'll be a shame if I lose it all as I really feel like I'm getting to be quite a good player, but I can't justify putting more money on here when I'm out of work and incapacitated.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:21 pm
by Ecno
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:
Rex McGee wrote:
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:Well I've had some horrendous cards tonight. I played three tournaments and the best hand I had in any of them was A2d or ATo, whichever one you think is best. Most of my roll is now gone :(.


ATo.

How much? If you are losing most of your roll in a few tournaments you need to play lower stakes.


Well I lost with ATo and trebled up with A2d ;).

I shouldn't be complaining, really. I came to PokerStars as an absolute noob, deposited $20, built it up a little then lost it all; deposited another $20 and from that I've still got around $13 left after about two months of learning. I'm going to 3 table $4.40 SnG games and see what I'm left with. It'll be a shame if I lose it all as I really feel like I'm getting to be quite a good player, but I can't justify putting more money on here when I'm out of work and incapacitated.



This is your problem. With 13 dollars left you should either be playing $1 SNGs or 0.01/0.02 Cash games with a $2 buy in. Are these the 180 mans? If so you really need a bankroll of over $200 dollars minimum to be playing them.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:44 pm
by Nova
Ecno wrote:
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:
Rex McGee wrote:
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:Well I've had some horrendous cards tonight. I played three tournaments and the best hand I had in any of them was A2d or ATo, whichever one you think is best. Most of my roll is now gone :(.


ATo.

How much? If you are losing most of your roll in a few tournaments you need to play lower stakes.


Well I lost with ATo and trebled up with A2d ;).

I shouldn't be complaining, really. I came to PokerStars as an absolute noob, deposited $20, built it up a little then lost it all; deposited another $20 and from that I've still got around $13 left after about two months of learning. I'm going to 3 table $4.40 SnG games and see what I'm left with. It'll be a shame if I lose it all as I really feel like I'm getting to be quite a good player, but I can't justify putting more money on here when I'm out of work and incapacitated.



This is your problem. With 13 dollars left you should either be playing $1 SNGs or 0.01/0.02 Cash games with a $2 buy in. Are these the 180 mans? If so you really need a bankroll of over $200 dollars minimum to be playing them.


Absolute minimum, really. If you want to multi-table them, a lot of people would recommend you having around $400. My variance has hit an epic high so I thought I'd stop for this month. I've moved from $150 to $400, so I can hardly complain, but I'll pick it up again after the important uni exams that are coming up.

EDIT - Not as epic as Rex's though :P

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:50 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
That's the thing, you see, I'm not really going for bankroll management at the moment. I feel like I'm still very much learning and I'm looking at these games as experience. I really don't feel like you can play properly at low stake levels as there are just so many people who don't know what they're doing. I think once I get a job I'll slap a decent amount in and really look to play by the rules.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:52 pm
by Ecno
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:That's the thing, you see, I'm not really going for bankroll management at the moment. I feel like I'm still very much learning and I'm looking at these games as experience. I really don't feel like you can play properly at low stake levels as there are just so many people who don't know what they're doing. I think once I get a job I'll slap a decent amount in and really look to play by the rules.


That's what you want. You want to beat people who don't know what there doing not what there doing.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:56 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Ecno wrote:
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:That's the thing, you see, I'm not really going for bankroll management at the moment. I feel like I'm still very much learning and I'm looking at these games as experience. I really don't feel like you can play properly at low stake levels as there are just so many people who don't know what they're doing. I think once I get a job I'll slap a decent amount in and really look to play by the rules.


That's what you want. You want to beat people who don't know what there doing not what there doing.


Yeah I know, but I keep finding that I'll progress fairly well in a tournament by beating these not so great people 4/5 times, then I'll get sucked out on at some stage. I suppose I should be playing cash at this level, but I just prefer the feel of tournaments.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Freeze, Tuesday 8pm

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:06 pm
by Ecno
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:
Ecno wrote:
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:That's the thing, you see, I'm not really going for bankroll management at the moment. I feel like I'm still very much learning and I'm looking at these games as experience. I really don't feel like you can play properly at low stake levels as there are just so many people who don't know what they're doing. I think once I get a job I'll slap a decent amount in and really look to play by the rules.


That's what you want. You want to beat people who don't know what there doing not what there doing.


Yeah I know, but I keep finding that I'll progress fairly well in a tournament by beating these not so great people 4/5 times, then I'll get sucked out on at some stage. I suppose I should be playing cash at this level, but I just prefer the feel of tournaments.



Which is why you need 50-100+ buyins to play MTTS.