Pokémon Sword & Shield (Crown Tundra Out Now - Play It Quick Before It Votes For Independence)

Herdanos wrote:I think I can offer the same as Mori.

Also, just seen online that the Crown Tundra dex and Isle of Armor dex contain Pokemon already available in the Galar dex... so what's the point of that then?

You still got it?

I've picked up the expansion lately and I'm super annoyed that the legendary Pokemon you get from the Dynamax Expeditions in Crown Tundra don't have Pokedex entries.

I find it funny how th battling in these games is so one note and gooseberry fool that all 90% of people care about is collecting stuff.

I genuinely enjoy Pokémon Go's battling more.

Fade wrote:I find it funny how th battling in these games is so one note and gooseberry fool that all 90% of people care about is collecting stuff.

I genuinely enjoy Pokémon Go's battling more.

Really? But it’s just a lesser version of the main series. If that’s one note then go battling is one 10th note

shy guy 64 wrote:

Fade wrote:I find it funny how th battling in these games is so one note and gooseberry fool that all 90% of people care about is collecting stuff.

I genuinely enjoy Pokémon Go's battling more.

Really? But it’s just a lesser version of the main series. If that’s one note then go battling is one 10th note

It's really not.

When you get to the higher ranks in the main series it's the exact same teams over and over again with 1 or maybe two Pokémon being different. Entire battles can be decided on the roll of a dice or a 50/50 guess.

Go is a lot more reaction based, you can learn the timing of certain charge/fast move combinations and switch a Pokémon in at the right time to block them, you can purposefully make a move do less damage so you can allow your Pokémon to build up some extra charge before the next Pokémon comes out.

Not to mention there are constantly different leagues/cups so you don't just see the same Pokémon all the time and they make meta changes every single season.

Not to mention the PvE stuff is way.more difficult than the main series, which for me makes it way more engaging. The enemies are constantly twice your level, so if you don't use the right typings you will lose.

Sure the main series has a lot more variables, but when such a small percentage of them are worth using it kind of ruins the point of having so many Pokémon to collect

In Pokémon Go even if they're kind of shitty you can at least out them in gyms to show them offz or use them as filler in raids for fun.

EDIT: Also in the main series most Pokémon can use way too many moves, in go lesser known Pokémon can be useful simply because they have a really good move. For example most legendaries don't have moves that can reduce or buff stats but Pokémon like Golbat, Pangoro and Driftblim do.

Fade wrote:I find it funny how th battling in these games is so one note and gooseberry fool that all 90% of people care about is collecting stuff.

To be fair, that's the tagline.

OrangeRKN wrote:

Fade wrote:I find it funny how th battling in these games is so one note and gooseberry fool that all 90% of people care about is collecting stuff.

To be fair, that's the tagline.

Sure, it's just funny to me.

Nobody really likes the battle system, they just tolerate it. It's a 90s JRPG system that they've never changed and never introduced difficulty options for, despite the audience that grew up with the original games now being in their 30's

Nobody but 7 year olds are like "Wow I did one move over and over and won, how cool!"

It's just really frustrating when you compare the effort that gets put into games not even half as popular or successful.

Fade wrote:

shy guy 64 wrote:

Fade wrote:I find it funny how th battling in these games is so one note and gooseberry fool that all 90% of people care about is collecting stuff.

I genuinely enjoy Pokémon Go's battling more.

Really? But it’s just a lesser version of the main series. If that’s one note then go battling is one 10th note

It's really not.

When you get to the higher ranks in the main series it's the exact same teams over and over again with 1 or maybe two Pokémon being different. Entire battles can be decided on the roll of a dice or a 50/50 guess.

Go is a lot more reaction based, you can learn the timing of certain charge/fast move combinations and switch a Pokémon in at the right time to block them, you can purposefully make a move do less damage so you can allow your Pokémon to build up some extra charge before the next Pokémon comes out.

Not to mention there are constantly different leagues/cups so you don't just see the same Pokémon all the time and they make meta changes every single season.

Not to mention the PvE stuff is way.more difficult than the main series, which for me makes it way more engaging. The enemies are constantly twice your level, so if you don't use the right typings you will lose.

Sure the main series has a lot more variables, but when such a small percentage of them are worth using it kind of ruins the point of having so many Pokémon to collect

In Pokémon Go even if they're kind of shitty you can at least out them in gyms to show them offz or use them as filler in raids for fun.

EDIT: Also in the main series most Pokémon can use way too many moves, in go lesser known Pokémon can be useful simply because they have a really good move. For example most legendaries don't have moves that can reduce or buff stats but Pokémon like Golbat, Pangoro and Driftblim do.

not really. it comes down to who can get their strong move charged first. and all the stat changes and reductions have never been as effective as they are in the main series. no fighting the same rocket grunts for eternity. no abilities no held items. its like banging on a table to have two paper dolls fight

shy guy 64 wrote:

Fade wrote:

shy guy 64 wrote:

Fade wrote:I find it funny how th battling in these games is so one note and gooseberry fool that all 90% of people care about is collecting stuff.

I genuinely enjoy Pokémon Go's battling more.

Really? But it’s just a lesser version of the main series. If that’s one note then go battling is one 10th note

It's really not.

When you get to the higher ranks in the main series it's the exact same teams over and over again with 1 or maybe two Pokémon being different. Entire battles can be decided on the roll of a dice or a 50/50 guess.

Go is a lot more reaction based, you can learn the timing of certain charge/fast move combinations and switch a Pokémon in at the right time to block them, you can purposefully make a move do less damage so you can allow your Pokémon to build up some extra charge before the next Pokémon comes out.

Not to mention there are constantly different leagues/cups so you don't just see the same Pokémon all the time and they make meta changes every single season.

Not to mention the PvE stuff is way.more difficult than the main series, which for me makes it way more engaging. The enemies are constantly twice your level, so if you don't use the right typings you will lose.

Sure the main series has a lot more variables, but when such a small percentage of them are worth using it kind of ruins the point of having so many Pokémon to collect

In Pokémon Go even if they're kind of shitty you can at least out them in gyms to show them offz or use them as filler in raids for fun.

EDIT: Also in the main series most Pokémon can use way too many moves, in go lesser known Pokémon can be useful simply because they have a really good move. For example most legendaries don't have moves that can reduce or buff stats but Pokémon like Golbat, Pangoro and Driftblim do.

not really. it comes down to who can get their strong move charged first. and all the stat changes and reductions have never been as effective as they are in the main series. no fighting the same rocket grunts for eternity. no abilities no held items. its like banging on a table to have two paper dolls fight

It doesn't though, you can swap Pokémon in to tank it, you can decide when and how to use your shields, you can charge up energy then swap the Pokémon out and save it for the end of the match. And no they're not as effective but that's because every move in Go does damage, so if they were as effective they'd be a bit OP.

Sure where as the main series is like a super complex board game where only 1/10 of the pieces are worth using and you can win because you flipped a coin and got heads.

Just because something is more complex it doesn't necessarily mean it's better.

There's a reason people still play Street Fighter 2 for example yet nobody cares about Street Fighter X Tekken. The latter is poorly designed despite being more mechanically complex.

The main series games are just an unbalanced mess, mostly because they're trying to build on top of a battle system that is 2 decades old and was never designed to be played super seriously.

Fade wrote:

shy guy 64 wrote:

Fade wrote:

shy guy 64 wrote:

Fade wrote:I find it funny how th battling in these games is so one note and gooseberry fool that all 90% of people care about is collecting stuff.

I genuinely enjoy Pokémon Go's battling more.

Really? But it’s just a lesser version of the main series. If that’s one note then go battling is one 10th note

It's really not.

When you get to the higher ranks in the main series it's the exact same teams over and over again with 1 or maybe two Pokémon being different. Entire battles can be decided on the roll of a dice or a 50/50 guess.

Go is a lot more reaction based, you can learn the timing of certain charge/fast move combinations and switch a Pokémon in at the right time to block them, you can purposefully make a move do less damage so you can allow your Pokémon to build up some extra charge before the next Pokémon comes out.

Not to mention there are constantly different leagues/cups so you don't just see the same Pokémon all the time and they make meta changes every single season.

Not to mention the PvE stuff is way.more difficult than the main series, which for me makes it way more engaging. The enemies are constantly twice your level, so if you don't use the right typings you will lose.

Sure the main series has a lot more variables, but when such a small percentage of them are worth using it kind of ruins the point of having so many Pokémon to collect

In Pokémon Go even if they're kind of shitty you can at least out them in gyms to show them offz or use them as filler in raids for fun.

EDIT: Also in the main series most Pokémon can use way too many moves, in go lesser known Pokémon can be useful simply because they have a really good move. For example most legendaries don't have moves that can reduce or buff stats but Pokémon like Golbat, Pangoro and Driftblim do.

not really. it comes down to who can get their strong move charged first. and all the stat changes and reductions have never been as effective as they are in the main series. no fighting the same rocket grunts for eternity. no abilities no held items. its like banging on a table to have two paper dolls fight

It doesn't though, you can swap Pokémon in to tank it, you can decide when and how to use your shields, you can charge up energy then swap the Pokémon out and save it for the end of the match. And no they're not as effective but that's because every move in Go does damage, so if they were as effective they'd be a bit OP.

Sure where as the main series is like a super complex board game where only 1/10 of the pieces are worth using and you can win because you flipped a coin and got heads.

Just because something is more complex it doesn't necessarily mean it's better.

There's a reason people still play Street Fighter 2 for example yet nobody cares about Street Fighter X Tekken. The latter is poorly designed despite being more mechanically complex.

The main series games are just an unbalanced mess, mostly because they're trying to build on top of a battle system that is 2 decades old and was never designed to be played super seriously.

Why don’t we agree to disagree

Sure, but there's clearly a problem with the battling when you compare the level of interest to much less successful games.

You will never see a Pokémon battling grand finals on the front page of twitch for example, which is honestly kind of embarrassing given the size of the franchise.

Fade wrote:

Herdanos wrote:I think I can offer the same as Mori.

Also, just seen online that the Crown Tundra dex and Isle of Armor dex contain Pokemon already available in the Galar dex... so what's the point of that then?

You still got it?

I've still got a copy of it, if you need.

Memento Mori wrote:

Fade wrote:

Herdanos wrote:I think I can offer the same as Mori.

Also, just seen online that the Crown Tundra dex and Isle of Armor dex contain Pokemon already available in the Galar dex... so what's the point of that then?

You still got it?

I've still got a copy of it, if you need.

Wouldn't mind one of its going cheers

PMd. Additionally if anyone has a Glastrier or Spectrier you're willing to give me, I can give you almost any mythical pokemon in return.

Ballonlea is just lovely

Rubix wrote:Ballonlea is just lovely

remember to be complimentary

shy guy 64 wrote:

Rubix wrote:Ballonlea is just lovely

remember to be complimentary

Too late

Can someone who's played the DLC tell me - what levels are the trainers and wild Pokemon in the Crown Tundra / Isle of Armor at?

When I get the DLC I was thinking of trying to start fresh and only use newly caught Pokemon - would this be viable?

Level 60 and over if I recall correctly. It's post game content.

Far as I'm aware, it scales to the number of badges you have. Otherwise, not viable with Lv:60s as wild 'mon.