Rightey wrote:Lol firstly, let me start off by saying I don't know who the hell any of these evil alt-right personalities are.
So this thread broadly agrees that they are, indeed, "evil alt-right personalities", and you admit that's
literally all you know about them, yet you're still arguing for
"let's all go listen to what they have to say"?
What do you think that says about you?
Rightey wrote:The only thing I know about Perterson is from some parts of a documentary that was aired here on tv, I didn't catch the full thing. From what I remembered one point he addressed was how the government here made it illegal to refer to people by the incorrect pronoun, he said these kinds of laws ultimately weren't helpful, and a better approach is to just talk to people.
Jordan Peterson is a hateful, transphobic, misogynistic bigot. You should think long and hard about why his rant on pronouns seemed reasonable to you. Is it because you're a transphobe, or because you didn't think critically enough about his baseless hate-mongering?
Rightey wrote:Secondly, I have no idea what you consider to be a centrist, personally I don't think one side has all the correct answers to every issue so I want to hear what others have to say. That doesn't equate with me saying I think hate speech or whatever is ok.
Fascist rhetoric is designed to radicalise. Encouraging people to go and listen to fascists is dangerous. "We should all politely listen to everyone" is exactly how these ideas spread and how discourse in a society becomes extremised.
Rightey wrote:What you seem to consider "inaction against fascism" is me saying I think free speech is important, rather than you know actual fascism. Saying we should try and silence people who are part of some "far-right radicalisation network" (
I wonder what their membership cards look like) while simultaneously saying the left aren't authoritarian doesn't really pan out.
If you genuinely think it's authoritarian for me, an individual, to tell other individuals, "I think you shouldn't watch these videos because they're dangerous", then you're a complete strawberry floating idiot.
Rightey wrote:I don't go to the oh so evil anonymous forums you mentioned earlier but I've been in plenty of places with some who are actual fascists and whenever they bring up their dumb opinions they always get shot down and picked apart, if anyone ever bothers to acknowledge them at all.
Why do you hang out with fascists? Is that where you're getting all these terrible takes?
Rightey wrote:evil alt-right personalities...oh so evil anonymous forums...some "far-right radicalisation network" (
I wonder what their membership cards look like)
Why are you deliberately downplaying the moral repugnance of fascists? You are just parroting alt-right rhetoric here. "Haha, the left thinks this harmless little ol' YouTuber is
evil!, just for teensy little things like
being overtly racist on dozens of occasions and encouraging his viewers to visit white supremacist channels, how
crazy is that!" The left is not hysterical: the left has correctly identified the mechanism by which a contemporary far-right white supremacist movement is coalescing in western society. If you want us to believe you're an oh-so-rational moderate, take your thumb out of your arse, go read into how the alt-right operates, and stop encouraging people to engage with these fascist shitlords.