Politics Thread 5

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by mcjihge2 » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:51 pm

I think that they should have brought Begum back from the terrorist state and then made the correct legal terrorism charges against her. The UK should be a civilised country that follows the letter of the law. What Javid has done will be overturned in the courts. It will prove him to be the odious banana split politician that he is.

In other news,

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 89621.html

Germany has refused to bow to pressure from Britain to start selling arms to Saudi Arabia again.

Jeremy Hunt, the foreign secretary, had written to Berlin to ask the government to soften its stance, saying it is “imperative” that it exempt big defence projects from its arms sales halt to Saudi Arabia or face damage to its commercial credibility.


Another proven odious banana split of a politician wants to sell guns to a terrorist state.

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by Rocsteady » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:46 pm

Denster wrote:I thought being tarred with the same brush as racists was bad enough. Now I'm no better than a nazi?

Priceless.

Stop being such a baby man, as if all the people on here are ganging up on you and calling you a Nazi :cry:

No one's called you a Nazi, no one's called you a racist. You're creating strawmen because you don't have the intelligence to actually debate the points.

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by Christopher » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:48 pm

In arguing that I would let Begum home with my family they asked me would I forgive the Bulger killers :/

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by <]:^D » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:50 pm

wtf :lol:

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by Denster » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:04 pm

:lol:

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by Grumpy David » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:07 pm

Watching that Channel 4 show atm "Sleeping with the Far Right".

Already suprised to learn the guy who got kicked out of the BNP for being too racist is actually half white and half Indian, sounds American and has a Ukrainian wife.

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by Denster » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:11 pm

Rocsteady wrote:
Denster wrote:I thought being tarred with the same brush as racists was bad enough. Now I'm no better than a nazi?

Priceless.

Stop being such a baby man, as if all the people on here are ganging up on you and calling you a Nazi :cry:

No one's called you a Nazi, no one's called you a racist. You're creating strawmen because you don't have the intelligence to actually debate the points.


I'm pretty sure I've debated the points. I was amused by the nazi comparison. I'm not bleating about it. .Nor have I complained about anyone 'ganging up on me'.

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by Christopher » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:16 pm

Well it escalated quicker than usual, obviously I tried to not engage the Bulger lunacy comment and instead speak about crimes of passion, to which they said it doesn’t matter what is done is done whatever happens they must face punishment.

Soon ended up about the time I nearly topped myself and how selfish that would be, I honestly have no idea how we get to these things.

In short I’ve left my family group chat.

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by Rocsteady » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:34 pm

Denster wrote:I'm ok if it only applies to people who join terrorist states.

The problem is that it only applies to people of certain backgrounds who join terrorist 'states'.

If I went and joined ISIS it would unquestionably be illegal to do what Javid is proposing as no government recognises ISIS as another nation capable of granting citizenship. Therefore I would be left stateless.

Whether you think of that as a good thing or not, his proposal would instantly be thrown out of court in my case and, as such, would be a ridiculous thing for the home Secretary to do.

Therefore we're treating people with different backgrounds as second class citizens, I.e. not fully British even when they solely hold a British passport; the only difference is their parents are from another nation. Is that acceptable?

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by Rocsteady » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:35 pm

suzzopher wrote:Well it escalated quicker than usual, obviously I tried to not engage the Bulger lunacy comment and instead speak about crimes of passion, to which they said it doesn’t matter what is done is done whatever happens they must face punishment.

Soon ended up about the time I nearly topped myself and how selfish that would be, I honestly have no idea how we get to these things.

In short I’ve left my family group chat.

Regardless of the rest of it, that's some unacceptable gooseberry fool.

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by KK » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:14 pm

Boring but positive financial news...

Britain's public finances have received a big boost ahead of the chancellor's Spring Statement next month.

Income from taxes beat public spending by £14.9bn in January, the largest monthly surplus since records began in 1993, official figures showed.

The bumper surplus beat economists' forecasts of £10bn, and was £5.6bn greater than January 2018.

January is a key revenue-raising month as it is when taxpayers submit their self-assessment returns.

Analysts said the reduction in borrowing should give Chancellor Philip Hammond extra money for his next economic update in the spring, amid acute Brexit concerns.

Howard Archer, chief economic adviser to the EY Item Club, said: "A record high surplus on the January public finances provides a much-needed welcome boost for Chancellor Philip Hammond as he faces a worrying backdrop to his Spring Statement on 13 March.

"With the economy clearly struggling early on in 2019 after a sharp slowdown in the fourth quarter of 2018 and the Brexit situation highly uncertain, the chancellor will have a lot on his mind when he presents the Spring Statement.

"It looks highly likely that he will have to announce downgraded growth forecasts from the OBR [Office for Budget Responsibility] at least for the near term, with possible negative ramifications for expected budget deficits."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47318862

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by Lex-Man » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:19 pm

KK wrote:Boring but positive financial news...

Britain's public finances have received a big boost ahead of the chancellor's Spring Statement next month.

Income from taxes beat public spending by £14.9bn in January, the largest monthly surplus since records began in 1993, official figures showed.

The bumper surplus beat economists' forecasts of £10bn, and was £5.6bn greater than January 2018.

January is a key revenue-raising month as it is when taxpayers submit their self-assessment returns.

Analysts said the reduction in borrowing should give Chancellor Philip Hammond extra money for his next economic update in the spring, amid acute Brexit concerns.

Howard Archer, chief economic adviser to the EY Item Club, said: "A record high surplus on the January public finances provides a much-needed welcome boost for Chancellor Philip Hammond as he faces a worrying backdrop to his Spring Statement on 13 March.

"With the economy clearly struggling early on in 2019 after a sharp slowdown in the fourth quarter of 2018 and the Brexit situation highly uncertain, the chancellor will have a lot on his mind when he presents the Spring Statement.

"It looks highly likely that he will have to announce downgraded growth forecasts from the OBR [Office for Budget Responsibility] at least for the near term, with possible negative ramifications for expected budget deficits."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47318862


More tax cuts for the rich then.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Hypes » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:51 am

suzzopher wrote:I would let Begum home with my family


Well I wouldn't go that far :dread:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Squinty » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:07 am

twitter.com/ImIncorrigible/status/1098854166133387264



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Denster » Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:51 am

Brilliant.

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by Rex Kramer » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:24 am

twitter.com/IanAustinMP/status/1098870419598336000


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by Moggy » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:27 am

He is pro Brexit and says he will not join the independent group.

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by Moggy » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:22 am

twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1098884623877193728



:lol:

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by Tineash » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:38 am

Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1098884623877193728



:lol:


And crucially, I believe - accurately! - that all this will make me more attractive to my party members in a future leadership election.

The Aristocrats! I mean, The Conservatives!

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by Moggy » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:48 am

Tineash wrote:
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1098884623877193728



:lol:


And crucially, I believe - accurately! - that all this will make me more attractive to my party members in a future leadership election.

The Aristocrats! I mean, The Conservatives!


Sajid Javid wrote:I want to be leader but my fellow Tories might not like a brown Muslim guy as leader…....what can I do??

What if I start taking away citizenship from other brown Muslims? Then they might think I am one of the good ones! And I could sell weapons to countries that will use them to kill more brown people! They will love that!

I am a genius!


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