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by Lex-Man » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:19 am

It's only Tokyo where trains are super efficient. I was delayed multiple hours on a train out of Fukuoka once.

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by KK » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:01 pm

About 4,000 people joined former English Defence League leader Tommy Robinson in a protest against the BBC.

The corporation confirmed an upcoming Panorama episode was investigating Mr Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon.

He criticised the programme at the rally outside the BBC's Salford offices. About 500 people attended a counter-protest by anti-fascists.

The BBC said the episode would follow its "strict editorial guidelines".

Mr Yaxley-Lennon said the aim of the protest was to make a stand "against the corrupt media" and called for the BBC licence fee to scrapped.

During the rally, undercover filming of BBC Panorama journalist John Sweeney, carried out by a supporter of Mr Yaxley-Lennon, was broadcast on a large screen.

Mr Sweeney is heard saying "one of my political heroes is the former head of the IRA Martin McGuinness."

Mr McGuinness, who, as a prominent Sinn Fein politician, became Northern Ireland's deputy first minister, had acknowledged he was a member of the IRA. He died in 2017.

Mr Sweeney was also recorded making remarks which Tommy Robinson has described as racist, homophobic and anti-working class.

In response, a BBC spokeswoman said: "The BBC strongly rejects any suggestion that our journalism is 'faked' or biased.

"Any programme we broadcast will adhere to the BBC's strict editorial guidelines.

"Some of the footage which has been released was recorded without our knowledge during this investigation and John Sweeney made some offensive and inappropriate remarks, for which he apologises. BBC Panorama's investigation will continue."

UKIP leader Gerard Batten told demonstrators that Mr Yaxley-Lennon "speaks up for things that are right, he tells the truth and he can mobilise lots of people like you, and that's what they fear".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-47335414

John Sweeney of ‘No, you listen to me!’ Scientologists and ‘Getting followed around by Russian thugs’ fame, he sure has a habit of upsetting very unsavoury characters (and also becoming the story).

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by Herdanos » Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:11 pm

Hezbollah proscribed. Thoughts?

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by Moggy » Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:49 pm

Years of Username Limbo wrote:Hezbollah proscribed. Thoughts?


Jeremy is about to be arrested? ;)

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Hexx » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:10 am

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Preezy » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:13 am

What a bunch of gimps.

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by KK » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:16 am

Continuing the long tradition of politicians posing with food. Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the ice cream; Ed Miliband and the bacon sandwich; David Cameron and the sausage roll shop (which from memory had either been shut for years or didn't exist); George Osborne and the premium beef burger (ahead of the curve there, to be fair); Donald Trump eating KFC with a knife and fork...

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by Moggy » Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:23 am

I bet they went in, ordered, posed, paid and then walked out without eating any of the pleb food.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Dual » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:35 pm

Nandos is horrible. Like if u agree

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:40 pm

Facebook has taken down anti-Islamic leader Tommy Robinson's official page and Instagram profile for violating its policies on hate speech.

The former English Defence League leader was deemed to have been engaged in "organised hate".

A number of posts on his page had violated the social network's community standards, Facebook said in a blogpost.

It said that it had not taken the decision to remove his page lightly but added he would not be allowed back.

"When ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society - in some cases with potentially dangerous offline implications - we take action," Facebook said in a post.

"Tommy Robinson's Facebook page has repeatedly broken these standards, posting material that uses dehumanising language and calls for violence targeted at Muslims.

"He has also behaved in ways that violate our policies around organised hate."

The ban means that Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, will not be allowed to set up an official Facebook page or Instagram profile in future.

According to Facebook, a written warning had been sent to Mr Robinson last month about a number of posts on his page that had violated its community standards, including:
• a post calling Muslims "filthy scum bags"
• a post urging people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Koran
• a post urging people to "make war" on Muslims
• multiple videos depicting individuals being bullied

In January, YouTube suspended adverts on Mr Robinson's account, saying he had broken the site's advertising rules.

At the time, Mr Robinson denied they contained any "hateful" content and said he was the victim of censorship.

In November, PayPal said it would no longer process payments for Mr Robinson.

In May, Mr Robinson, 35, was jailed for contempt of court. The 13-month sentence sparked a series of #freetommy protests. The conviction was later quashed after procedural concerns.

The case has now been referred to the attorney general.

In March 2018, Mr Robinson was banned from Twitter. It is understood that his account was suspended for breaking its "hateful conduct policy".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47371290


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by Hexx » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:40 pm

If you ever get lost: Joan Ryan is the one who looks like an ill CRUFTS entrant at the back; Gavin Shuker is the one who looks like he won a school assembly public speaking competition so hard he immediately got transposed into the body of a middle-aged man at the front; Gapes is the pink one; Anna Soubry is the murderess who just killed a plate of chips here at the front.



So order-wise, R-to-L, you have this: Anna Soubry has gone for a plain salad with a bowl of plain chips which she has drenched in ketchup (we'll get to that); Chuka has gone for a churrasco burger with non-peri chips; Luciana Berger has a pitta with sweetcorn and chips; Mike Gapes' plate is both empty and has been pushed away from him, which leads me to think he’s consumed his food before everyone else even had the chance to pick at even one of their chips; Ann Coffey is too far at the back to tell properly, but she seems to have a leafy salad and, judging by the fact she is sawing with both pieces of cutlery, some sort of protein in the form of chicken or halloumi. I’m going to guess she’s gone for a single chicken breast, mild.



Then we have the other side: it’s impossible to tell what Chris Leslie has; Joan Ryan seems to have a beige plate in front of her, which – from the vague shapes and semi-yellow corn blob – makes me think she copied Luciana Berger’s order exactly; Wollaston has, as best I can tell, some plain chips; HEIDI ALLEN HAS AN ENTIRE strawberry floating WING ROULETTE TO HERSELF; Angela Smith has clearly asked, "What’s the plainest one you do?" and is disappointed to find her salad and salted chicken breast are both too spicy; Shuker has the chicken thighs, chips, coleslaw. Nobody on this table has added peri-salt to their chips. To repeat that: nobody on this table has added peri-salt to their chips.


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by KK » Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:43 pm

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Facebook has taken down anti-Islamic leader Tommy Robinson's official page and Instagram profile for violating its policies on hate speech.

The former English Defence League leader was deemed to have been engaged in "organised hate".

A number of posts on his page had violated the social network's community standards, Facebook said in a blogpost.

It said that it had not taken the decision to remove his page lightly but added he would not be allowed back.

"When ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society - in some cases with potentially dangerous offline implications - we take action," Facebook said in a post.

"Tommy Robinson's Facebook page has repeatedly broken these standards, posting material that uses dehumanising language and calls for violence targeted at Muslims.

"He has also behaved in ways that violate our policies around organised hate."

The ban means that Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, will not be allowed to set up an official Facebook page or Instagram profile in future.

According to Facebook, a written warning had been sent to Mr Robinson last month about a number of posts on his page that had violated its community standards, including:
• a post calling Muslims "filthy scum bags"
• a post urging people to terrorise and behead those who follow the Koran
• a post urging people to "make war" on Muslims
• multiple videos depicting individuals being bullied

In January, YouTube suspended adverts on Mr Robinson's account, saying he had broken the site's advertising rules.

At the time, Mr Robinson denied they contained any "hateful" content and said he was the victim of censorship.

In November, PayPal said it would no longer process payments for Mr Robinson.

In May, Mr Robinson, 35, was jailed for contempt of court. The 13-month sentence sparked a series of #freetommy protests. The conviction was later quashed after procedural concerns.

The case has now been referred to the attorney general.

In March 2018, Mr Robinson was banned from Twitter. It is understood that his account was suspended for breaking its "hateful conduct policy".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47371290


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This will be labelled by his supporters as an 'establishment stitch up' or something. Incredible though that this is now the joint face of UKIP.

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by Lex-Man » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:16 pm

They'll have to protest outside Facebooks head quarters. Maybe Javid can just remove all of their citizenship while they're out there. You no he'd want to.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:18 pm

Lex-Man wrote:They'll have to protest outside Facebooks head quarters. Maybe Javid can just remove all of their citizenship while they're out there. You no he'd want to.


Why would Javid remove the citizenship of right wing white males? He is way too busy taking away citizenship from brown girls.

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by That » Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:21 pm

Imagine how much that baby will grow up to strawberry floating hate the UK. And who can blame them?

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by OrangeRKN » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:45 pm

Karl wrote:that baby will grow up


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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by That » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:53 pm

:lol: :(

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by KK » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:16 pm

Labour has suspended MP Chris Williamson over remarks about the party's handling of anti-Semitism.

The Derby North MP said Labour had "given too much ground" in the face of criticism over the issue, but later said he "deeply regrets" the remarks.

A number of Labour MPs had called for his suspension and the parliamentary party said he was no longer welcome at their meetings.

A Labour spokesman confirmed he has now been suspended "pending investigation".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47393626

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by Cuttooth » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:30 pm

It was stunning to me that the original decision was to investigate without suspending him. Genuinely unbelievable.

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by KK » Thu Feb 28, 2019 12:39 pm

BBC News wrote:Net migration to the UK from countries outside the European Union has hit its highest level for 15 years, the Office for National Statistics says.

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Figures show 261,000 more non-EU citizens came to the UK than left in the year ending September 2018 - the highest since 2004.

In contrast, net migration from EU countries has continued to fall to a level last seen in 2009.

The figures are the last set before the UK is due to leave the EU next month.

And separate figures released by the Home Office show the number of EU nationals applying for British citizenship hit an all-time high last year, rising by 23% to about 48,000.

'Complex decision'

In December, the prime minister said the government was sticking to its longstanding ambition to bring net migration down to the "tens of thousands".

In the year to September, a total of 627,000 people moved to the UK and 345,000 people left the UK - a net migration of 283,000, ONS figures show.

Jay Lindop, director of the Centre for International Migration at the ONS, said: "Decisions to migrate are complex and a person's decision to move to or from the UK will always be influenced by a range of factors, including work, study and family reasons.

"Different patterns for EU and non-EU migration have emerged since mid-2016, when the EU referendum vote took place."

Overall, net migration, immigration and emigration figures have remained broadly stable since the end of 2016, the ONS said.

Immigration minister Caroline Nokes said the UK was continuing to attract and retain highly skilled workers, including doctors and nurses, but was "committed to controlled and sustainable migration".

"As we leave the EU, our new immigration system will give us full control over who comes here for the first time in decades, while enabling employers to have access to the skills they need from around the world."

She added that the government had "always been clear" it wanted EU citizens to stay and the EU Settlement Scheme, which allows EU nationals to apply to stay, made that simple.

The ONS report also showed:

  • More citizens from Central and Eastern European countries known as the EU8 - which includes Poland, Slovakia and Lithuania - are leaving the UK than arriving. This pattern differs from all other EU countries
  • The number of people coming to the UK for work has fallen to its lowest level since 2014 - this follows a fall in the number of EU citizens arriving to work
  • More people are coming to the UK to study, with non-EU student immigration at its highest level since 2011

Madeleine Sumption, from the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford, said the data showed Britain was not as attractive to EU migrants as it was a couple of years ago.

"That may be because of Brexit-related political uncertainty, the falling value of the pound making UK wages less attractive, or simply the fact that job opportunities have improved in other EU countries," she said.

She added that EU net migration happened to be unusually high in the run-up to the referendum, so at least some of the decline would probably have happened even without Brexit.

Diane Abbott, Labour's shadow home secretary, said: "Once again the number of migrants coming here vastly outstrips its unworkable 100,000 net migration target.

"Its policy is not really about reducing numbers but allows it to maintain a constant campaign against migration and migrants."

She criticised the immigration bill currently going through Parliament and accused the home secretary of promising more business access to overseas workers, at the same time as effectively removing all their rights.

Marley Morris, of the Institute for Public Policy Research, a centre-left think tank, said the "marked fall" in EU net migration meant the government needed to "act now to reassure EU citizens and contain the economic damage".

"It must ramp up its communications campaign on settled status, send a strong message to employers that rights must be protected, and clarify its proposals for a no deal scenario."

A couple more charts at the link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47400679

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