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by Errkal » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:09 am

Squinty wrote:Rumours going around that JRM is going to chancellor. This is not good.


Well that will only end well.

It’s going to be a hardcore cuntservative leave fest isn’t it.

The only plus might be that when they strawberry float it there can surely be no arguing the leave gooseberry fool mps are morons as they are right in the drivers seat.

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by Lagamorph » Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:53 am

Errkal wrote:
Squinty wrote:Rumours going around that JRM is going to chancellor. This is not good.


Well that will only end well.

It’s going to be a hardcore cuntservative leave fest isn’t it.

The only plus might be that when they strawberry float it there can surely be no arguing the leave gooseberry fool mps are morons as they are right in the drivers seat.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by KK » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:06 pm

Latest round of bad news for the newspapers (June)

Metro: 1,424,232 (-3% year-on-year)
The Sun: 1,277,947 -12%
Daily Mail: 1,175,653 -7%
The Sun on Sunday: 1,066,147 -13%
The Mail on Sunday: 986,385 -7%
London Evening Standard: 845,284 -5%
The Sunday Times: 686,819 -5%
Daily Mirror: 488,829 -13%
Sunday Mirror: 403,350 -15%
The Times: 399,672 -7%
The Daily Telegraph: 327,345 -12%
Daily Star: 310,246 -15%
Daily Express: 307,662 -9%
Sunday Express: 268,096 -9%
The Sunday Telegraph: 258,394 -10%
i: 228,801 -8%
Daily Star – Sunday: 184,914 -16%
Financial Times: 175,512 -4%
The Observer: 159,568 -4%
Sunday People: 151,523 -18%
The Guardian: 132,821 -4%

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Errkal » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:29 pm

Do he sun numbers include all the free ones they give away?

The spar near me is always trying to give the Shiite thing away with any purchase.

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by KK » Sat Jul 20, 2019 9:34 pm

Yes, it does. 68,779 are freebies, such as the airport, hotels etc.

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by KK » Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:28 pm

Priti Patel is being considered for a shock cabinet return as new home secretary, replacing Sajid Javid, according to Sunday’s The Independent, as Boris Johnson seeks to convince the public he is not a “British Donald Trump”.

The controversial Brexiteer – sacked for misleading Theresa May over secret meetings with Israeli politicians – is poised to be among early supporters of the likely new prime minister to be rewarded.

They are also likely to include Iain Duncan Smith, another polarising right-winger, who is expected to land the crucial job of chief whip.

Explaining why advisers are urging him to send Ms Patel, whose family were Ugandan Indians, to the home office, one source said it would be a “clear statement to the British public that Boris will not be a British version of Donald Trump”. It would also ensure a woman in a prominent post.

Sajid Javid is current frontrunner to be the new chancellor, marking the first cabinet with two of the great offices of state filled by politicians from ethnic minorities.

As Mr Johnson seeks a fresh exit deal, another key appointment being considered is Geoffrey Cox, the attorney general, to a negotiating role with Brussels.

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by Squinty » Sun Jul 21, 2019 7:01 am

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... s-18489365

A 19-year-old Brexiteer has claimed to be responsible for the leak of diplomatic cables that led to the resignation of the British ambassador to US.

Sir Kim Darroch quit after his scathing secret letters branding Donald Trump "inept" and "dysfunctional" were broadcast around the world.

The Metropolitan Police launched an investigation into the leaks.

Now Steven Edginton, a young journalist and digital strategist for Nigel Farage's Brexit Party, has claimed to be responsible for obtaining the papers.

Despite his association with anti-EU politics, he says leaking the cables was not a "Brexiteer plot to topple Sir Kim" - but insists he did it only to "develop my career" as a journalist.

He wrote in the Mail on Sunday that he has 'a large number of Whitehall sources, including both retired and current civil servants'.

He spent over seven months on the investigation until a trusted source 'read out to me an astonishing letter written by Sir Kim (Darroch) to Sir Mark (Sedwill), Britain's national security adviser, in June 2017."

The letter indicates that Sir Kim Darroch branded Donald Trump's White House 'inept' and 'utterly dysfunctional'.

The leak prompted the US president to fire off a series of angry tweets, in which he branded Sir Kim a 'pompous fool', a 'stupid guy' and declared that his administration would no longer work with him.

Mr Edginton, who has worked as a freelance journalist as well as a strategist for the Taxpayers' Alliance and Leave Means Leave campaign, said: "The leak of Sir Kim's cables had absolutely nothing to do with the Brexit Party."

He also claimed he worked with the political journalist Isabel Oakeshott to build up the story but decided to 'leave my name out of it'.

The leaked cables led to Sir Kim Darroch's decision to stand down and days after his resignation, an investigation has launched by Scotland Yard's the counter-terrorism command.

The 19-year-old said the investigation had left him on edge with anxiety.

Fearing that he could be arrested at any minute, Steven sent his father a text message - 'Prepare for the worst'.

He also wrote: "Last week I was eating my lunch in Victoria Tower Gardens near the House of Parliament when I spotted a middle-aged man dressed as a tourist taking pictures of me.

"He then furtively ducked behind a tree before, I think, getting into a white van."

Mr Edginton suspects he may be being followed by the security services.

His theory was backed by Ms Oakeshott, who also believed her Snapchat account was monitored by the GCHQ spy agency.

Despite his concerns, Steven pledged not to and never will reveal the name of his source.


Well.....this doesn't seem like a cynical attempt to distance someone from a story they published.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Herdanos » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:58 am

Errkal wrote:Do he sun numbers include all the free ones they give away?

The spar near me is always trying to give the Shiite thing away with any purchase.


Surely the Sun is more Sunni than Shiite

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Tineash » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:04 pm

KK wrote:
Priti Patel is being considered for a shock cabinet return as new home secretary, replacing Sajid Javid, according to Sunday’s The Independent, as Boris Johnson seeks to convince the public he is not a “British Donald Trump”.

The controversial Brexiteer – sacked for misleading Theresa May over secret meetings with Israeli politicians – is poised to be among early supporters of the likely new prime minister to be rewarded.

They are also likely to include Iain Duncan Smith, another polarising right-winger, who is expected to land the crucial job of chief whip.

Explaining why advisers are urging him to send Ms Patel, whose family were Ugandan Indians, to the home office, one source said it would be a “clear statement to the British public that Boris will not be a British version of Donald Trump”. It would also ensure a woman in a prominent post.

Sajid Javid is current frontrunner to be the new chancellor, marking the first cabinet with two of the great offices of state filled by politicians from ethnic minorities.

As Mr Johnson seeks a fresh exit deal, another key appointment being considered is Geoffrey Cox, the attorney general, to a negotiating role with Brussels.


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by Tafdolphin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:37 pm

"I'm not racist, some of my best friends/cabinet members are darkies."

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by Lex-Man » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:39 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:"I'm not racist, some of my best friends/cabinet members are darkies."


You joke but I read Trump supporters saying he's not racist because he tried to get a rapper out of jail in Sweden.

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by Tafdolphin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 1:46 pm

And he actually ended up getting the guy's sentence extended from what I read.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:06 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:"I'm not racist, some of my best friends/cabinet members are darkies."


:lol:

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by Samuel_1 » Sun Jul 21, 2019 8:12 pm


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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by massimo » Sun Jul 21, 2019 11:07 pm

Samuel_1 wrote:Israeli diplomat who plotted against MPs also set up political groups

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/08/israeli-diplomat-shai-masot-plotted-against-mps-set-up-political-groups-labour


Mind if I ask your motivation behind posting that?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:29 am

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Samuel_1 » Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:20 am

massimo wrote:
Samuel_1 wrote:Israeli diplomat who plotted against MPs also set up political groups

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/08/israeli-diplomat-shai-masot-plotted-against-mps-set-up-political-groups-labour


Mind if I ask your motivation behind posting that?

No. It just shows that there are proven efforts to undermine certain MPs by a foreign power, that's all.

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by Lex-Man » Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:58 am

Apparently, six Tory MP's are in talks to join the Lib Dems.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/b ... ar-AAEF704

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by KK » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:00 pm

The new leader of the Liberal Democrats is to be announced at around 4pm today as well.

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by Preezy » Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:02 pm

Lex-Man wrote:Apparently, six Tory MP's are in talks to join the Lib Dems.

KK wrote:The new leader of the Liberal Democrats is to be announced at around 4pm today as well.

New Lib Dem leader is going to be Rees-Mogg :lol: :dread:


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