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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by KK » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:24 pm

Labour are soaring ahead in the polls.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Benzin » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:26 pm

Dat Corbyn effect :datass:

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by Lex-Man » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:38 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/britainelects/status/1091762049099677697



What ever the leadership's plan is, it ain't working.

How is that even possible? Someone sits down and decides that the Tories are the best option at this point? strawberry floating hell Labour members, have a word with yourselves.


The worrying thing is they'll still probably be ahead when there's no food on the shelf's in a couple of months time.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by That » Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:42 pm

I guess the fundamental problem with Labour is that their vague, in-the-middle stance on Brexit means they haven't really tapped into the vote from either side of the debate. Remainers think they should be doing more to limit Brexit, and I suppose Leavers believe they're TRAITORS WHO WON'T LET US JUST GET ON WITH IT!!! or whatever.

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by Cheeky Devlin » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:57 am

Labour are strawberry floated just now.
The Tories will be strawberry floated soon enough.
The Lib Dems have always been strawberry floated.
UKIP are just strawberry floats.
And the Greens won't even get the chance to be strawberry floated.

It's just ridiculous that there isn't a single party that's worth a damn.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:41 am

Karl wrote:I guess the fundamental problem with Labour is that their vague, in-the-middle stance on Brexit means they haven't really tapped into the vote from either side of the debate. Remainers think they should be doing more to limit Brexit, and I suppose Leavers believe they're TRAITORS WHO WON'T LET US JUST GET ON WITH IT!!! or whatever.


That’s exactly it.

Remain supporters see Corbyn as a Leaver, Leave supporters see Labour as Remainers.

And I think both sides are right in those assumptions.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by KK » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:14 pm

The Telegraph has announced that from tomorrow the price of the weekday edition of the paper will now cost £2. Saturday rises to £2.50, and Sunday £2.20. Those sales figures will be fun this year...

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by Cuttooth » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:18 pm

Isn't The Telegraph the one with the biggest overall collapse in recent sales?

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by KK » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:36 pm

They are. They’ve also dumped bulks (libraries, airports, hotels etc that give them out for free or discounted), and their website is mostly paywalled, so their visabilty to the masses is going to be nonexistent. The latest figures for December were 363,183 and 281,025 for Sunday.

All the papers are declining fast year-on-year: Daily Star down 15%, Mirror down 14%, Daily Mail and Express down 12%, Guardian down 7%.

Only paper keeping it together is The Sunday Times, down just 3%, on 710,665. The gulf between them and the Sunday Telegraph isn’t even close any more.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Hexx » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:49 pm

twitter.com/mikechamberlain/status/1091808876423458822



He doesn't care about Brexit.

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by Lex-Man » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:05 pm

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/mikechamberlain/status/1091808876423458822



He doesn't care about Brexit.


He can't actually understand the cliff edge we're standing on.

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by Wrathy » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:28 pm

I never understood how Corbyn managed to pull the wool over every leftie's eyes and pretend he was the man of the people. He's a career politician (and not a particularly good one) who has never had a real job in his life and has been scratching his arse in the corridors of Westminster since 1983. The total lack of enthusiasm and irrelevance in his leadership is a direct result of that.

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by Errkal » Mon Feb 04, 2019 6:51 am

Wrathy wrote:I never understood how Corbyn managed to pull the wool over every leftie's eyes and pretend he was the man of the people. He's a career politician (and not a particularly good one) who has never had a real job in his life and has been scratching his arse in the corridors of Westminster since 1983. The total lack of enthusiasm and irrelevance in his leadership is a direct result of that.


They didn’t need much wool, they saw a proper lefty as a leader option and have been strumming / stroking themselves stupid since them.

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by captain red dog » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:00 am

Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/mikechamberlain/status/1091808876423458822



He doesn't care about Brexit.

Brexit doesn't stop him tackling domestic issues like public transport. This is sheer middle class tears, people who don't use buses see it as a trivial issue. If they had to commute on them every day it would be a different story.

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by Moggy » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:19 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/mikechamberlain/status/1091808876423458822



He doesn't care about Brexit.

Brexit doesn't stop him tackling domestic issues like public transport. This is sheer middle class tears, people who don't use buses see it as a trivial issue. If they had to commute on them every day it would be a different story.


“Somebody doesn’t like Corbyn - quick tell them they must be middle class!”

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Mon Feb 04, 2019 2:58 pm

twitter.com/nadinedorries/status/321618304567488512



It’s an old tweet but is getting some coverage as Dorries recently confused Ash Sarkar with Faiza Shaheen.

twitter.com/nadinedorries/status/1092335886648442880



She is so ridiculously stupid. :lol:

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by Lex-Man » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:43 pm

Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/nadinedorries/status/321618304567488512



It’s an old tweet but is getting some coverage as Dorries recently confused Ash Sarkar with Faiza Shaheen.

twitter.com/nadinedorries/status/1092335886648442880



She is so ridiculously stupid. :lol:


I don't thing it's very funny to mock somebody who obviously has serious vision problems.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by captain red dog » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:41 pm

Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/mikechamberlain/status/1091808876423458822



He doesn't care about Brexit.

Brexit doesn't stop him tackling domestic issues like public transport. This is sheer middle class tears, people who don't use buses see it as a trivial issue. If they had to commute on them every day it would be a different story.


“Somebody doesn’t like Corbyn - quick tell them they must be middle class!”

It's more to do with people seeing public transport as trivial. It is if you don't use it. Some of us have to use it every day and thus it represents a major factor in people's lives.

Of course when Corbyn and the Guardian were campaigning about lack of seats on trains, the middle class were up in arms about it, before the misleading nature of the story came to light.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:57 pm

captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/mikechamberlain/status/1091808876423458822



He doesn't care about Brexit.

Brexit doesn't stop him tackling domestic issues like public transport. This is sheer middle class tears, people who don't use buses see it as a trivial issue. If they had to commute on them every day it would be a different story.


“Somebody doesn’t like Corbyn - quick tell them they must be middle class!”

It's more to do with people seeing public transport as trivial. It is if you don't use it. Some of us have to use it every day and thus it represents a major factor in people's lives.

Of course when Corbyn and the Guardian were campaigning about lack of seats on trains, the middle class were up in arms about it, before the misleading nature of the story came to light.


It’s not that public transport is trivial, but that it is trivial in comparison to other issues.

Losing £20 isn’t trivial, but it is if my home is on fire.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Lex-Man » Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:04 pm

Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Moggy wrote:
captain red dog wrote:
Hexx wrote:

twitter.com/mikechamberlain/status/1091808876423458822



He doesn't care about Brexit.

Brexit doesn't stop him tackling domestic issues like public transport. This is sheer middle class tears, people who don't use buses see it as a trivial issue. If they had to commute on them every day it would be a different story.


“Somebody doesn’t like Corbyn - quick tell them they must be middle class!”

It's more to do with people seeing public transport as trivial. It is if you don't use it. Some of us have to use it every day and thus it represents a major factor in people's lives.

Of course when Corbyn and the Guardian were campaigning about lack of seats on trains, the middle class were up in arms about it, before the misleading nature of the story came to light.


It’s not that public transport is trivial, but that it is trivial in comparison to other issues.

Losing £20 isn’t trivial, but it is if my home is on fire.


It's not so much I don't think public transport is important. It's just that in comparison to Brexit it's pretty small. The guy hasn't offered any real opposition on the issue and is now just off talking about a side show.

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