Politics Thread 6

[Moggy]

It's hilarious to me that Japan apparently doesnt have like an actual army and still spends that much on the military.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force

iirc their constitution says they're not to make an army, or at least one that can act outside of Japan

obviously that hasnt stopped them because I kind of doubt a military that well funded is purely for defensive purposes

Japan's military is purely a defense force. I'm sorry you think otherwise, but you're ultimately entirely wrong.

That's not true. They sent have sent troops abroad for peacekeeping missions. They also sent troops to Afghanistan.

Peacekeeping missions and NATO commitments don't negate their self-defence status

Article 9 of the post war constitution states: "the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes" - sending troops abroad would seem to go against that last part?

They changed it in 2015.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34287362

Looks like a fight broke out in the parliament over the decision - they can't be trusted, give them a hint of military freedom and they start a ruckus!

It wasn't a fight, it was two sides practicing self-defence.

[Tomous]

It's hilarious to me that Japan apparently doesnt have like an actual army and still spends that much on the military.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force

iirc their constitution says they're not to make an army, or at least one that can act outside of Japan

obviously that hasnt stopped them because I kind of doubt a military that well funded is purely for defensive purposes

Japan's military is purely a defense force. I'm sorry you think otherwise, but you're ultimately entirely wrong.

That's not true. They sent have sent troops abroad for peacekeeping missions. They also sent troops to Afghanistan.

Peacekeeping missions and NATO commitments don't negate their self-defence status

Article 9 of the post war constitution states: "the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes" - sending troops abroad would seem to go against that last part?

They changed it in 2015.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34287362

Looks like a fight broke out in the parliament over the decision - they can't be trusted, give them a hint of military freedom and they start a ruckus!

It wasn't a fight, it was two sides practicing self-defence.

[Jenuall]

It's hilarious to me that Japan apparently doesnt have like an actual army and still spends that much on the military.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force

iirc their constitution says they're not to make an army, or at least one that can act outside of Japan

obviously that hasnt stopped them because I kind of doubt a military that well funded is purely for defensive purposes

Japan's military is purely a defense force. I'm sorry you think otherwise, but you're ultimately entirely wrong.

That's not true. They sent have sent troops abroad for peacekeeping missions. They also sent troops to Afghanistan.

Peacekeeping missions and NATO commitments don't negate their self-defence status

Article 9 of the post war constitution states: "the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes" - sending troops abroad would seem to go against that last part?

They changed it in 2015.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34287362

Looks like a fight broke out in the parliament over the decision - they can't be trusted, give them a hint of military freedom and they start a ruckus!

It wasn't a fight, it was two sides practicing self-defence.

[Stugene]

It's hilarious to me that Japan apparently doesnt have like an actual army and still spends that much on the military.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force

iirc their constitution says they're not to make an army, or at least one that can act outside of Japan

obviously that hasnt stopped them because I kind of doubt a military that well funded is purely for defensive purposes

Japan's military is purely a defense force. I'm sorry you think otherwise, but you're ultimately entirely wrong.

That's not true. They sent have sent troops abroad for peacekeeping missions. They also sent troops to Afghanistan.

Peacekeeping missions and NATO commitments don't negate their self-defence status

No, but it also means they are not "purely a defence force"

I think Afghanistan was a step too far to be perfectly honest

[Stugene]

It's hilarious to me that Japan apparently doesnt have like an actual army and still spends that much on the military.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force

iirc their constitution says they're not to make an army, or at least one that can act outside of Japan

obviously that hasnt stopped them because I kind of doubt a military that well funded is purely for defensive purposes

Japan's military is purely a defense force. I'm sorry you think otherwise, but you're ultimately entirely wrong.

That's not true. They sent have sent troops abroad for peacekeeping missions. They also sent troops to Afghanistan.

Peacekeeping missions and NATO commitments don't negate their self-defence status

Article 9 of the post war constitution states: "the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes" - sending troops abroad would seem to go against that last part?

They changed it in 2015.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34287362

Ah I had forgotten about that. You are quite right. In true politics thread form though, I will now refuse to back down and double down.

[Green Gecko]

I am looking forward to 5 pages of repeating the same point with no added substance. Please report this post if it is off topic.

[Moggy]

I will now refuse to back down and double down.

This isn't Question Time.

[Moggy]

Please report this post if it is off topic.

Done

[Stugene]

I will now refuse to back down and double down.

This isn't Question Time.

[patiently watches clock until it reaches Question Time]

[Preezy]

It's hilarious to me that Japan apparently doesnt have like an actual army and still spends that much on the military.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force

iirc their constitution says they're not to make an army, or at least one that can act outside of Japan

obviously that hasnt stopped them because I kind of doubt a military that well funded is purely for defensive purposes

Japan's military is purely a defense force. I'm sorry you think otherwise, but you're ultimately entirely wrong.

Japan Defence Force has come out to defend... Japan's defence force? How appropriate

[Stugene]

It's hilarious to me that Japan apparently doesnt have like an actual army and still spends that much on the military.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Ground_Self-Defense_Force

iirc their constitution says they're not to make an army, or at least one that can act outside of Japan

obviously that hasnt stopped them because I kind of doubt a military that well funded is purely for defensive purposes

Japan's military is purely a defense force. I'm sorry you think otherwise, but you're ultimately entirely wrong.

Japan Defence Force has come out to defend... Japan's defence force? How appropriate

Don't get smart with me - I know Karate

[Pedz]

I see Gecko has been reported and I have now given him a 6 week ban.

[Moggy]

I see Gecko has been reported and I have now given him a 6 week ban.

That's way too lenient.

[Pedz]

Sorry.

[Oblomov Boblomov]

The denials around these secret parties at Number 10 last Christmas are something to behold. How on earth have we descended to this pit of scummery.

[Cheeky Devlin]

The denials around these secret parties at Number 10 last Christmas are something to behold. How on earth have we descended to this pit of scummery.

This dumb son of a bitch and his self-serving pals.

twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/595112367358406656

[Stugene]

The denials around these secret parties at Number 10 last Christmas are something to behold. How on earth have we descended to this pit of scummery.

hope you're not planning to protest against it, since you'll soon be getting slapped with a 51 week sentence

[VlaSoul]

The denials around these secret parties at Number 10 last Christmas are something to behold. How on earth have we descended to this pit of scummery.

This dumb son of a bitch and his self-serving pals.

twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/595112367358406656

I still cant get over how big dave just slapped us with the brexit and then dipped
peak sigma male move if I've ever seen it

I think Ed Miliband would have been a decent prime minister, so far as modern labour goes anyway

[Stugene]

The denials around these secret parties at Number 10 last Christmas are something to behold. How on earth have we descended to this pit of scummery.

This dumb son of a bitch and his self-serving pals.

twitter.com/David_Cameron/status/595112367358406656

I still cant get over how big dave just slapped us with the brexit and then dipped
peak sigma male move if I've ever seen it

I think Ed Miliband would have been a decent prime minister, so far as modern labour goes anyway

two incredible takes. the double.

[Lex-Man]

I can't believe he hasn't deleted that tweet yet!