Politics Thread 6

[Vermilion]

I wonder at what point Priti Patel will propose bringing back the death penalty for killing MPs. And then a few other offenses. And then a few more.

Patel can't even get a bunch of people to stay off the M25, so i really don't see that becoming a thing.

[Qikz]

I hate the tories from the bottom of my heart, but nobody deserves this. If anything he deserved jail for what he's supported over the years.

[Stuart]

I hate the tories from the bottom of my heart, but nobody deserves this. If anything he deserved jail for what he's supported over the years.

Jailing people for opposing political views is one way to win an election, you might enjoy living in Russia He's just been killed, show some respect.

[Return_of_the_STAR]

Knee jerk reactions from MPs incoming.

[Oblomov Boblomov]

I hate the tories from the bottom of my heart, but nobody deserves this. If anything he deserved jail for what he's supported over the years.

Jailing people for opposing political views is one way to win an election, you might enjoy living in Russia He's just been killed, show some respect.

Yeah Qikz, the guy spent decades campaigning to make people's lives worse, using his power to oppress minorities and facilitate the suffering of vulnerable people, but you better not criticise him in a tiny corner of the internet now that he's dead and can't read what you're saying.

[Cyburn2]

ITV News tripping over themselves to confirm the attacker was a foreign national.

Thats the Daily Mail's/GB News job

[captain red dog]

Watching the Blair/Brown documentary. Blair still looks evil. I'm sure some oracles here will correct me, but Brown comes across as a good guy who was utterly shafted by Blairites and international economic events.

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

[Moggy]

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

It was the cause of most of the modern issues.

[Lex-Man]

Surely the lack of any action was the issue with the 00s issue.

[captain red dog]

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

It was the cause of most of the modern issues.

True, rose tinted glasses from my point of view I guess, but things didn't seem quite so poisonous and toxic back then.

[Moggy]

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

It was the cause of most of the modern issues.

True, rose tinted glasses from my point of view I guess, but things didn't seem quite so poisonous and toxic back then.

No, but it led to austerity which led to "the EU are taking all our money" which led to "strawberry floating traitors get the strawberry float over to Europe if you love the strawberry floating MALTESE SO strawberry floating MUCH!!!!!!"

[Garth]

David Amess: MP’s killing declared a terrorist incident
Man, 25, in custody as police investigate ‘potential motivation linked to Islamist extremism’

The killing of the Conservative MP David Amess, who died after being stabbed several times at an open advice surgery for his constituents in Essex, has been declared as a terrorist incident.

The death of the 69-year-old veteran backbencher brought heartfelt tributes from all parties. Just five years after the murder of Jo Cox, it also prompted renewed worries about the security risks for MPs in an increasingly rancorous and polarised political era.

A 25-year-old man, believed to be a Briton with Somali heritage, is in custody and has been arrested on suspicion of murder. Sources have told the Guardian he has the same details as someone who had previously been referred to the Prevent scheme, the official programme for those thought at risk of radicalisation.

In a statement, the Metropolitan police said the senior national coordinator for counter-terrorism policing, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Dean Haydon, had formally declared the incident as terrorism. The early investigation has revealed “a potential motivation linked to Islamist extremism”, the force said.

As part of the investigation, officers are searching two addresses in the London area, the Met said. The force believe the man acted alone and are not seeking anyone else at the moment.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... dApp_Other

[Cuttooth]

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

It was the cause of most of the modern issues.

True, rose tinted glasses from my point of view I guess, but things didn't seem quite so poisonous and toxic back then.

There's an obsession right now with believing this toxicity is a modern invention with social media at its heart. This ignores just how vile the political landscape already was for marginalised people and how that came from both traditional, right wing media (including our current PM!) and the policies of major political parties.

We were already a country obsessed with the perceived threats to our British way of life from "bogus asylum seekers", the EU, benefit claimants, LGBT people, Muslims, and travellers among others.

[Moggy]

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

It was the cause of most of the modern issues.

True, rose tinted glasses from my point of view I guess, but things didn't seem quite so poisonous and toxic back then.

There's an obsession right now with believing this toxicity is a modern invention with social media at its heart. This ignores just how vile the political landscape already was for marginalised people and how that came from both traditional, right wing media (including our current PM!) and the policies of major political parties.

We were already a country obsessed with the perceived threats to our British way of life from "bogus asylum seekers", the EU, benefit claimants, LGBT people, Muslims, and travellers among others.

I don't think anybody has claimed there was no toxicity 15 years ago.

But it's far worse now. And I'm not solely blaming social media. The Brexit vote is the biggest cause of the current toxicity, it literally tore families apart.

[Dowbocop]

I wonder at what point Priti Patel will propose bringing back the death penalty for killing MPs. And then a few other offenses. And then a few more.

Patel can't even get a bunch of people to stay off the M25, so i really don't see that becoming a thing.

I'm against the death penalty full stop, especially the Harper's Law style "some people's lives are worth more than others" version. However it would particularly stink if Patel tried to push the Hang'em All! button for her MP friend after she didn't for a serving police officer who used his badge to rape and kill.

[Moggy]

I wonder at what point Priti Patel will propose bringing back the death penalty for killing MPs. And then a few other offenses. And then a few more.

Patel can't even get a bunch of people to stay off the M25, so i really don't see that becoming a thing.

I'm against the death penalty full stop, especially the Harper's Law style "some people's lives are worth more than others" version. However it would particularly stink if Patel tried to push the Hang'em All! button for her MP friend after she didn't for a serving police officer who used his badge to rape and kill.

To be fair, she also supports the death penalty for children in boats.

[Knoyleo]

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

It was the cause of most of the modern issues.

True, rose tinted glasses from my point of view I guess, but things didn't seem quite so poisonous and toxic back then.

There's an obsession right now with believing this toxicity is a modern invention with social media at its heart. This ignores just how vile the political landscape already was for marginalised people and how that came from both traditional, right wing media (including our current PM!) and the policies of major political parties.

We were already a country obsessed with the perceived threats to our British way of life from "bogus asylum seekers", the EU, benefit claimants, LGBT people, Muslims, and travellers among others.

But Cuttooth, xenophobia and bigotry were only invented in 2013 to fill the void left in the hearts of the nation after the perfect summer that was the 2012 Olympics. Everything was perfect then.

[Rocsteady]

I hate the tories from the bottom of my heart, but nobody deserves this. If anything he deserved jail for what he's supported over the years.

This is an insane idea tbh.

[Cuttooth]

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

It was the cause of most of the modern issues.

True, rose tinted glasses from my point of view I guess, but things didn't seem quite so poisonous and toxic back then.

There's an obsession right now with believing this toxicity is a modern invention with social media at its heart. This ignores just how vile the political landscape already was for marginalised people and how that came from both traditional, right wing media (including our current PM!) and the policies of major political parties.

We were already a country obsessed with the perceived threats to our British way of life from "bogus asylum seekers", the EU, benefit claimants, LGBT people, Muslims, and travellers among others.

I don't think anybody has claimed there was no toxicity 15 years ago.

But it's far worse now. And I'm not solely blaming social media. The Brexit vote is the biggest cause of the current toxicity, it literally tore families apart.

It's definitely worse now but a big reason for that is that toxicity is impacting a much wider range of people than it did before. Brexit is arguably more of a symptom than a cause. I feel that if Remain had won the referendum in 2016 it would have only ever delayed this inevitable breakdown in social trust.

[Rocsteady]

The late 00s financial collapse seems like an utterly trivial event compared to modern issues.

It was the cause of most of the modern issues.

True, rose tinted glasses from my point of view I guess, but things didn't seem quite so poisonous and toxic back then.

There's an obsession right now with believing this toxicity is a modern invention with social media at its heart. This ignores just how vile the political landscape already was for marginalised people and how that came from both traditional, right wing media (including our current PM!) and the policies of major political parties.

We were already a country obsessed with the perceived threats to our British way of life from "bogus asylum seekers", the EU, benefit claimants, LGBT people, Muslims, and travellers among others.

I don't think anybody has claimed there was no toxicity 15 years ago.

But it's far worse now. And I'm not solely blaming social media. The Brexit vote is the biggest cause of the current toxicity, it literally tore families apart.

It's definitely worse now but a big reason for that is that toxicity is impacting a much wider range of people than it did before. Brexit is arguably more of a symptom than a cause. I feel that if Remain had won the referendum in 2016 it would have only ever delayed this inevitable breakdown in social trust.

The problem since 2016 is that it now impacts me as a middle class straight white male. How could people let this happen