Politics Thread 6

[Cuttooth]

There seems to be a big problem as the energy cap doesn't apply to companies. So a lot of small companies could go bust putting people out of work.

Yep, most small companies are probably on contracted fixed tariffs but whenever they're coming to renew their contract or switch they'll be hit by a massive increase to their rates. You'd hope any new fixed tariff would be cheaper than a variable rate that has no ceiling to it but ultimately you're going to get companies (and not even just small ones at that) that start to go into significant debt with their suppliers, or potentially shutting down altogether. I wouldn't be surprised if you then saw even more energy suppliers (especially the almost boiler room operations) go bust because they're suddenly footing the full cost of energy they pledged to sell to customers who no longer exist.

[Moggy]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/29/met-seeks-further-bid-to-challenge-high-court-ruling-over-sarah-everard-vigil

Met spending even more of your money trying to appeal the Sarah Everard vigil ruling.

Despite losing (and/or ignoring , so they could beat up women remembering a woman murdered by a police office) every court case/ruling so far.

twitter.com/guardian/status/1558476787189006341

Will the Met finally get the message now?

[Tineash]

Will the Met finally get the message now?

I don't know, are their hurt feelings a little less ouchy now?

[floydfreak]

twitter.com/Mysteron_Voice/status/1558932819589693454

[Moggy]

twitter.com/sundersays/status/1558838511880601600

What a banana split! Wearing clothes that could also be worn by hooligans.

[KK]

It’s also yet another article being gooseberry fool on by Mail online readers: https://www.dailyfail.co.uk/news/articl ... s-11109305

[captain red dog]

twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1559144779446976512

Such a beautiful sight. Although unusually a bit of mis-info from Pippa there as Johnson didn't have much in that flat that was bought with his own money!

[Rex Kramer]

I bet whoever is next in has everything crossed that he takes that god-awful wallpaper.

[Tomous]

Make sure he's not packing any top secret Trident documentation for his Russian paymasters

[Rex Kramer]

He probably passed all those on at the last bunga bunga party.

[Moggy]

twitter.com/telegraph/status/1559119930515243008

The Telegraph giving print space to Jordan Peterson to promote anti-environmental gibberish.

strawberry floating wankers.

[Cuttooth]

Can Mr Peterson please explain this by using chaos dragons eating their own tails? I'll get it then.

[Green Gecko]

twitter.com/sundersays/status/1558838511880601600

What a banana split! Wearing clothes that could also be worn by hooligans.

As someone in fashion/clothing that's strawberry floating hilarious, a single item £150 worn what could be "multiple times" connotes football hooliganism and luxury spends, and a £200 dress (so a full outfit costing about as much) also worn multiple times is "sustainable" fashion?

There's nothing sustainable about wearing an item more than once - wearing an item 50-100 times maybe - and the manner in which and of what it is made matters a great deal more as well.

[Rex Kramer]

You have to realise how deep you are in whackjob territory when the only person you can get to defend your anti-environment stance is Peterson.

[Green Gecko]

Oh my god, it's a Karen Miller dress that is supposedly "sustainable", parent company Boohoo, which I'll have a lot of fun digging into sustainability claims, but there's this:

It was announced by The Times on 28 March 2017 that Karen Millen, founder of Karen Millen Fashions Limited, had been declared bankrupt in the High Court, London due to unpaid income tax. It came after the administrators to Kaupthing Bank, which own Karen Millen, had prevented the designer from using her name to launch a new brand. It was also stated that Millen owed HM Revenue and Customs £6 million after attempting to use a "tax avoidance" scheme which HMRC successfully contested in 2010.[8]

She's literally wearing a brand originally owned and operated by a designer who declared bankruptcy to avoid paying unpaid income tax, and earlier avoided 6 strawberry floating million in tax.

Edit: As for Boohoo, which I new were dodgy from memory, while more than half of the garments are produced in the UK (and this speaks a lot for the country of manufacture being essentially irrelevant, as wage exploitation and wage slavery exists here too, hence modern slavery act), over 75% of the garments manufacturer in Leicester go to Boohoo brands. They are paid less than the minimum wage - as little as £3.50 per hour.

Boohoo has been criticised for promoting fast-fashion which critics claim comes at a cost to those making the clothes and the environment. More than half of Boohoo's garments are produced in the UK, especially Leicester, London, and Manchester. Boohoo buys 75%–80% of the clothing produced in Leicester. This was made possible when other retailers such as ASOS reduced the amount they sourced from Leicester over concerns about working conditions. In 2017, the Channel 4 television documentary series Dispatches found that factories in Leicester supplying Boohoo (along with New Look, River Island and Missguided) were paying workers less than the national minimum wage. Boohoo stated that the work had been subcontracted without their knowledge

In late June 2020, workers' rights group Labour Behind the Label produced a report that stated factories supplying Boohoo were not following to social distancing and forcing employees to work even if sick, claims that Boohoo denied. This was followed by an investigative report by The Sunday Times which claimed to have found that workers producing clothes for Boohoo at a Leicester-based company were paid £3.50 an hour, less than half the UK minimum wage for over 25s.

And what of their overseas manufacture? It's even worse:

In September the company accepted the findings of a report by Allison Levitt QC, which found that the allegations of poor working practices in the company's supply chain were "substantially true", that its monitoring of the factories was "inadequate" due to “weak corporate governance”, and that its failure to assess the risk to workers during the coronavirus pandemic were "inexcusable". In November 2020 it appointed former judge Sir Brian Leveson to provide independent ethical oversight. An investigation by The Guardian newspaper in December 2020 traced Boohoo's supply chain to factories in Pakistan where workers claimed to be paid as low as £47 a month, less than the legal minimum wage, and ordered to work to shifts as long as 24 hours without receiving full overtime pay.

Remember this is "sustainable fashion" because a dress was worn 4 times. The truth is Truss is literally buying from a brand that avoids tax, pays nowhere close to the min wage at manufacturing, and exploits overseas near-slave working conditions. She is literally wearing Conservatism, it's even a strawberry floating blue dress!!

strawberry float fast fashion and strawberry float Liz Truss!!

[Cuttooth]

twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1559215896337555458

Jesus Christ imagine if she called and won a snap election.

[Moggy]

twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1559215896337555458

Jesus Christ imagine if she called and won a snap election.

Luckily we vote for parties, not individuals.



Truss is a strawberry float up. I'd be stunned if she increases the Tory poll numbers after the new leader bounce. In fact, I'd be stunned if she even manages to keep it level.

[Godzilla]

Interesting to see the government announce a new vaccine the day Starmer launches his energy policy. It's almost as if it was done to give the right wing papers something to praise the government for tomorrow.

[Cuttooth]

twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1559215896337555458

Jesus Christ imagine if she called and won a snap election.

Luckily we vote for parties, not individuals.



Truss is a strawberry float up. I'd be stunned if she increases the Tory poll numbers after the new leader bounce. In fact, I'd be stunned if she even manages to keep it level.

The biggest overall influence on voters during a general election campaign is going to be whether they can support putting one of two individuals in number 10. Show me a UK general election in recent history where a party whose leader was trailing their opponent in approval ratings came out ahead of them.

Truss should only be able to slide backwards as more and more people get pulled into a desperate financial situation, plus there should be a bit more of an unknown factor to her than Sunak, but I really wouldn’t have expected Starmer to trail her at any point.

[Moggy]

twitter.com/RedfieldWilton/status/1559215896337555458

Jesus Christ imagine if she called and won a snap election.

Luckily we vote for parties, not individuals.



Truss is a strawberry float up. I'd be stunned if she increases the Tory poll numbers after the new leader bounce. In fact, I'd be stunned if she even manages to keep it level.

The biggest overall influence on voters during a general election campaign is going to be whether they can support putting one of two individuals in number 10. Show me a UK general election in recent history where a party whose leader was trailing their opponent in approval ratings came out ahead of them.

Truss should only be able to slide backwards as more and more people get pulled into a desperate financial situation, plus there should be a bit more of an unknown factor to her than Sunak, but I really wouldn’t have expected Starmer to trail her at any point.

That's true, but it's also rare for a leader to be behind while the party is ahead.

Truss isn't leader yet. And I can see her approval tanking pretty quickly. Even if she calls a snap election, her approval can fall dramatically during a campaign, just look at Theresa May.

And it's a lot tighter than it was in 2019.