Politics Thread 6

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Who will you vote for at the next General Election?

Conservative
16
10%
Labour
64
41%
Liberal Democrat
28
18%
Green
22
14%
SNP
16
10%
Brexit Party
4
3%
UKIP
2
1%
Plaid Cymru
3
2%
DUP
1
1%
Sinn Fein
2
1%
The Independent Group for Change
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 158
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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Harry Ola » Thu May 19, 2022 11:55 am

BBC issued a correction though and are now saying:

"The Met said the inquiry, which began in January and cost £460,000, resulted in 126 people facing fines for events across eight different dates.

Twenty-eight people are facing between two and five fines."

Either way, word on the street is that Boris is not getting anymore.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Victor Mildew » Thu May 19, 2022 11:57 am

LET'S MOVE ON!!!!!

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Qikz » Thu May 19, 2022 12:00 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:LET'S MOVE ON!!!!!


its like they don't know theres a war on xx

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Hexx » Thu May 19, 2022 12:00 pm

The huge Abba party celebrating Dominic Cumminds departure seems to have been deemed a "work event" :slol

Ah the Met. Constantly finding new ways to surprise you at how shite it is.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Victor Mildew » Thu May 19, 2022 12:02 pm

Imagine how many fines Jeremy Corbyn would have got!!!!

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Hexx » Thu May 19, 2022 12:08 pm

Harry Ola wrote:BBC issued a correction though and are now saying:

"The Met said the inquiry, which began in January and cost £460,000, resulted in 126 people facing fines for events across eight different dates.

Twenty-eight people are facing between two and five fines."

Either way, word on the street is that Boris is not getting anymore.


The Met statement says "The breakdown of recipients is, 53 were men and 73 were women." so it maybe the Guardian got it wrong.

Just reading about it is massively raising my blood pressure. Disgustingly obvious whitewash. They don't even try to hide it.

Best hope is the juniors thrown under the bus start leaking stuff now.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Thu May 19, 2022 12:13 pm

I wonder how much mind people will actually pay to the SG report now. It'll probably be presented as one silly little woman's opinion vs the outcome of a full police investigation. :roll:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Squinty » Thu May 19, 2022 12:26 pm

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Hexx » Thu May 19, 2022 12:35 pm

https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/ ... 9972151298

The entire thread is a good read but basically highlights huge inconsistencies that smell like the expected whitewash.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Nibble » Thu May 19, 2022 12:44 pm

I fully expect to see Starmer somehow now receive two FPNs for a single gathering.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Cuttooth » Thu May 19, 2022 12:47 pm

Nibble wrote:I fully expect to see Starmer somehow now receive two FPNs for a single gathering.

He'll end up receiving the one Cummings should have got.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Moggy » Thu May 19, 2022 1:06 pm

Tomous wrote:If he only gets 1 fine then that is a huge win for Johnson.

Let's see what the Sue Gray report says if they finally issue it.


Imagine a few years ago hearing "the Prime Minister has received one fine for breaking his own laws" and thinking "it's a win for the PM!".

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Hexx » Thu May 19, 2022 2:59 pm

twitter.com/SebastianEPayne/status/1527274738133139456



:slol:

Edit

twitter.com/PippaCrerar/status/1527287311947313157


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by OrangeRKN » Thu May 19, 2022 3:40 pm

Moggy wrote:Imagine a few years ago hearing "the Prime Minister has received one fine for breaking his own laws" and thinking "it's a win for the PM!".


Unlawful things Boris Johnson has done as Prime Minister:

- Suspended parliament
- Awarded covid contracts worth billions to friends and family
- Broke his own lockdown law

And yet the official narrative is apparently to claim victory in only being fined for the latter once

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Nibble » Thu May 19, 2022 4:06 pm

C'mon now, be fair, I'm sure he only broke them in a 'specific and limited' way.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Moggy » Thu May 19, 2022 5:08 pm

I just watched the last episode of Derry Girls and it made me wonder if the late 90s/very early 00s was the last time we had hope for the future (even if misplaced). I don't mean personally, but as a country.

In the late 90s we had the optimism that Labour were going to use their huge majority for good. Northern Ireland looked like it was heading for a bright future (maybe it still will!) and we had a future ahead at the heart of an increasingly united Europe. The Cold War was over and it looked like Russia was going to be a friendly nation. Racism seemed to be lessening, gay people were starting to be accepted and the internet had arrived promising a future where we could connect and befriend everyone in the world.

Obviously things didn't turn out the way we all hoped, but that feeling of hope and optimism was amazing. And I don't think we've felt it since.

Some of it will be rose tinted, people tend to look back fondly of the time of their youth. But I don't think modern day young people have that sense of hope for the future. Over the next few years/decades they have what looks like a huge recession/depression. House prices/rent way beyond their reach. A Britain increasingly lurching towards totalitarianism and in constant dispute with Europe. A possible nuclear war with Russia. And to top it all off, climate change.

strawberry float the world is depressing. I'd give anything to feel that late 90/early 00s optimism again, even if it was all too brief and misplaced.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Godzilla » Thu May 19, 2022 5:20 pm

The worst thing he has done was sending people with covid to care homes to infect others and give them a lonely and avoidable death. No testing and when they got there no PPE for staff.

Also when he was recorded having a domestic with his wife she screamed "get off me"

So he is a man who puts his hands on a woman during an argument.

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by Jenuall » Thu May 19, 2022 6:09 pm

Moggy wrote:I just watched the last episode of Derry Girls and it made me wonder if the late 90s/very early 00s was the last time we had hope for the future (even if misplaced). I don't mean personally, but as a country.

In the late 90s we had the optimism that Labour were going to use their huge majority for good. Northern Ireland looked like it was heading for a bright future (maybe it still will!) and we had a future ahead at the heart of an increasingly united Europe. The Cold War was over and it looked like Russia was going to be a friendly nation. Racism seemed to be lessening, gay people were starting to be accepted and the internet had arrived promising a future where we could connect and befriend everyone in the world.

Obviously things didn't turn out the way we all hoped, but that feeling of hope and optimism was amazing. And I don't think we've felt it since.

Some of it will be rose tinted, people tend to look back fondly of the time of their youth. But I don't think modern day young people have that sense of hope for the future. Over the next few years/decades they have what looks like a huge recession/depression. House prices/rent way beyond their reach. A Britain increasingly lurching towards totalitarianism and in constant dispute with Europe. A possible nuclear war with Russia. And to top it all off, climate change.

strawberry float the world is depressing. I'd give anything to feel that late 90/early 00s optimism again, even if it was all too brief and misplaced.

Yep, it's incredibly depressing to look back on it now.

I'd say that about 96 until probably 2001 was peak optimism time for me.

Some of it was naivety, the bigots and the rich people who wanted to gooseberry fool on everyone never really went away or had their numbers diminished in any meaningful way, they just strawberry floated off to lick their wounds a bit and come up with some new strategies for being arseholes, but it did at least feel like we were on a positive trajectory for a while.

I despair for my kids in so many ways. Maybe I'm just being a pessimistic middle age fart, but I just can't see how they can have a youth that in any way manages to meet the levels of optimism and hope for the future that I had.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by OrangeRKN » Thu May 19, 2022 6:19 pm

Tbf climate change was apparent back then too, just even more ignored as a "future" problem

Godzilla wrote:The worst thing he has done was sending people with covid to care homes to infect others and give them a lonely and avoidable death. No testing and when they got there no PPE for staff.


My bad, I forgot that had also been ruled unlawful

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Jenuall » Thu May 19, 2022 6:26 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:Tbf climate change was apparent back then too, just even more ignored as a "future" problem


But there was more hope then that we might actually have time to do something about it.

It proved to be false hope of course, but we weren't to know that at the time


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