Politics Thread 6

[Ironhide]

twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1389858559689740291

Can someone please punch him in the face/bollocks.

[Tomous]

twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1389858559689740291

Can someone please punch him in the face/bollocks.

I'm sure there's a line don't worry.

[Cyburn2]

Brian Rose (London Real) got "owned" by some 15 years olds.

[coldspice]

Saw a car the other day with a Heritage Party sticker in, had to do a double take.

[KK]

Brian Rose is already referring to himself as the Mayor and says that Londoners are too. “A kid rode past me on a bike and said, ‘you’re the Mayor, innit’,” he tells me, attempting a cockney accent.

Rose is from San Diego, made a fortune as a banker on Wall Street and despite having not voted in the last mayoral or general elections, he is throwing everything at a bid to succeed Sadiq Khan. He’s certainly in with a chance to win the biggest character in the race. What Rose lacks in political experience, he makes up for in enthusiasm and exposure. You may have seen him on billboards around the capital or in his YouTube videos, announcing his manifesto, or “transform London 2021 plan of attack” as he calls it. Think accidental Alan Partridge, the American version. Despite polls putting Khan way out in front, Rose, who lives in Camden, thinks he is in with a chance: “I don’t believe in polls, they are out of date. We are going to see one of the greatest upsets in political history.” Later he admits he did his own poll and got 98 per cent.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor/b ... 29331.html

[Met]

I always love the idea of doing your own poll, and not getting 100%

Gotta look realistic.

[Dual]

I did my own poll with a sample of one person and got a 98% approval rating!

[DML]

Its like watching White Privilege Idol.

[Grumpy David]

twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1390017259444256772

Apart from London, it doesn’t look good for Labour tomorrow.

[DML]

twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1390017259444256772

Apart from London, it doesn’t look good for Labour tomorrow.

I actually say this not as some kind of Labour member, but if they get 36% they are doing impossibly well with two other parties battling for the left wing vote whilst the Tories have zero opposition on the right. I actually can't believe its gotten this close. A Tory party without Johnson may lose.

[Drumstick]

Starmer hasn't given anyone a reason to vote Labour since he took over. In fact I'd argue that Labour are less popular now than they were at the disastrous 2019 election.

[Squinty]

A common statement I've seen online is 'I'm voting Tory, Labour are worse'.

Like, strawberry floating, HOW? I can never get a good answer explaining this.

[DML]

Starmer hasn't given anyone a reason to vote Labour since he took over. In fact I'd argue that Labour are less popular now than they were at the disastrous 2019 election.

I'm sorry but that just isnt true. Polling is up a lot from 2019. They were 20pts behind at one point.

The media do a bloody good job of putting Starmer down and preventing any viable alternative, it plays on peoples minds.

It is also worth pointing out its a historically difficult time to oppose. When we cone out the other side people may feel differently.

[Cuttooth]

Labour were polling 42-45% in 2017/18 despite that apparently impossible block of the existence of multiple parties that have been around for decades.

[Moggy]

Labour were polling 42-45% in 2017/18 despite that apparently impossible block of the existence of multiple parties that have been around for decades.

They were barely getting close to 30% in opinion polls until May called her snap election.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion ... l_election

[Trelliz]

A common statement I've seen online is 'I'm voting Tory, Labour are worse'.

Like, strawberry floating, HOW? I can never get a good answer explaining this.

[Cuttooth]

Labour were polling 42-45% in 2017/18 despite that apparently impossible block of the existence of multiple parties that have been around for decades.

They were barely getting close to 30% in opinion polls until May called her snap election.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion ... l_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion ... l_election

[Oblomov Boblomov]

Got my votes in nice and early this morning.

Can't wait to be thoroughly depressed by the results .

[Moggy]

Labour were polling 42-45% in 2017/18 despite that apparently impossible block of the existence of multiple parties that have been around for decades.

They were barely getting close to 30% in opinion polls until May called her snap election.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion ... l_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion ... l_election

Pre 2017 election Labour were polling at below 30%

Post 2017 election Labour jumped up to the high 30s, low 40s with the odd poll putting them as high as 45%.

They then slipped back down to below 30% before slightly recovering to the low 30s.

Your point was that Labour polled at 42-45% despite there being other parties. Which is true, but ignores the polling either side of the 2017 election and ignores that Labour lost in 2017. Corbyn at his most popular couldn't beat May at her least popular. That's mostly down to FPTP but the split in the left/centre-left vote makes it nearly impossible for Labour to win an election.

[Cuttooth]

Labour were polling 42-45% in 2017/18 despite that apparently impossible block of the existence of multiple parties that have been around for decades.

They were barely getting close to 30% in opinion polls until May called her snap election.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion ... l_election

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion ... l_election

Pre 2017 election Labour were polling at below 30%

Post 2017 election Labour jumped up to the high 30s, low 40s with the odd poll putting them as high as 45%.

They then slipped back down to below 30% before slightly recovering to the low 30s.

Your point was that Labour polled at 42-45% despite there being other parties. Which is true, but ignores the polling either side of the 2017 election and ignores that Labour lost in 2017. Corbyn at his most popular couldn't beat May at her least popular. That's mostly down to FPTP but the split in the left/centre-left vote makes it nearly impossible for Labour to win an election.

I'm not ignoring any of that! It's just a ridiculous notion that 36% of the vote is a good performance because there are multiple parties vying for the same type of voter when we know Labour has performed better in the, relatively, recent past in both opinion polls and actual elections.

Instead of the same cry of "the left eats itself!" every few months it's better to analyse why Labour started sliding from early 2018 and never recovered (with polling leads only due to the Brexit Party coming into existence) and why a current strategy of chasing Tory voters at the expense of the new core Labour voter isn't working.