Politics Thread 6

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Who will you vote for at the next General Election?

Conservative
16
10%
Labour
64
41%
Liberal Democrat
28
18%
Green
22
14%
SNP
16
10%
Brexit Party
4
3%
UKIP
2
1%
Plaid Cymru
3
2%
DUP
1
1%
Sinn Fein
2
1%
The Independent Group for Change
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 158
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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Lex-Man » Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:31 pm

Mogg apperently is really picky with food. He has a diet worse than Trump.


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by KK » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:58 am

Labour had another leadership debate last night on Sky News. Audience were asked who they thought performed best at the end and they said Lisa Nandy>Keir Starmer>Rebecca Long-Bailey. Nandy keeps doing really well in these interview type scenarios.

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by Jenuall » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:42 am

None of them have massive "visibility" among the general public but Lisa Nandy is the one most like to get a "who?" response from people which is likely to be something that harms her chances of winning an election.

That and the fact that all the opposition/media will need to do is say "BUT HER DAD IS A MARXIST!!! SHE'LL BE WORSE THAN COMRADE CORBYN!!!" :fp:

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by Moggy » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:46 am

Jenuall wrote:None of them have massive "visibility" among the general public but Lisa Nandy is the one most like to get a "who?" response from people which is likely to be something that harms her chances of winning an election.

That and the fact that all the opposition/media will need to do is say "BUT HER DAD IS A MARXIST!!! SHE'LL BE WORSE THAN COMRADE CORBYN!!!" :fp:


I am not sure recognition matters. We are 5 years away from the next election, the Labour leader will be very well known by the time we vote again.

The vast majority of people didn’t know anything about Corbyn before he became leader and he is a household name now.

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by Jenuall » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:51 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:None of them have massive "visibility" among the general public but Lisa Nandy is the one most like to get a "who?" response from people which is likely to be something that harms her chances of winning an election.

That and the fact that all the opposition/media will need to do is say "BUT HER DAD IS A MARXIST!!! SHE'LL BE WORSE THAN COMRADE CORBYN!!!" :fp:


I am not sure recognition matters. We are 5 years away from the next election, the Labour leader will be very well known by the time we vote again.

The vast majority of people didn’t know anything about Corbyn before he became leader and he is a household name now.

True it doesn't necessarily matter now, but there needs to be a game plan for growing exposure quickly. And yes Corbyn is very well known now, but not really in the most positive way, I think it's very easy to see how Nandy could be backed into the same corner.

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by Moggy » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:55 am

Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:None of them have massive "visibility" among the general public but Lisa Nandy is the one most like to get a "who?" response from people which is likely to be something that harms her chances of winning an election.

That and the fact that all the opposition/media will need to do is say "BUT HER DAD IS A MARXIST!!! SHE'LL BE WORSE THAN COMRADE CORBYN!!!" :fp:


I am not sure recognition matters. We are 5 years away from the next election, the Labour leader will be very well known by the time we vote again.

The vast majority of people didn’t know anything about Corbyn before he became leader and he is a household name now.

True it doesn't necessarily matter now, but there needs to be a game plan for growing exposure quickly. And yes Corbyn is very well known now, but not really in the most positive way, I think it's very easy to see how Nandy could be backed into the same corner.


I don’t think it matters who the Labour leader is in that respect. They will all be smeared and accused of communism, unless they stick Tony Blair back in charge.

Corbyn and Miliband never seemed to have an answer to the smears. The next leader needs to be able to counteract a hostile media.

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by Jenuall » Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:59 am

Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Jenuall wrote:None of them have massive "visibility" among the general public but Lisa Nandy is the one most like to get a "who?" response from people which is likely to be something that harms her chances of winning an election.

That and the fact that all the opposition/media will need to do is say "BUT HER DAD IS A MARXIST!!! SHE'LL BE WORSE THAN COMRADE CORBYN!!!" :fp:


I am not sure recognition matters. We are 5 years away from the next election, the Labour leader will be very well known by the time we vote again.

The vast majority of people didn’t know anything about Corbyn before he became leader and he is a household name now.

True it doesn't necessarily matter now, but there needs to be a game plan for growing exposure quickly. And yes Corbyn is very well known now, but not really in the most positive way, I think it's very easy to see how Nandy could be backed into the same corner.


I don’t think it matters who the Labour leader is in that respect. They will all be smeared and accused of communism, unless they stick Tony Blair back in charge.

Corbyn and Miliband never seemed to have an answer to the smears. The next leader needs to be able to counteract a hostile media.

Agreed, the big challenge for the leader and party is to come up with an effective mechanism to combat the media and where possible actually control the story about what they are intending for the country.

That is going to be bloody hard, but with a bit of luck the next few years are going to hit people hard and they just might be a bit more receptive to Labour's plans and a bit more capable of seeing through the bullshit.

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by Lagamorph » Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:37 pm


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by KK » Sat Feb 29, 2020 5:57 pm

Boris Johnson and Carrie Symonds have just announced they're getting married. And she's pregnant, so that's probably at least 30 kids he's got now.

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by Dual » Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:57 pm

Many commiserations to the unhappy couple. I wonder if he will tell their child how many brothers and sisters they've got.

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by Jenuall » Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:15 pm

Another thing for Boris to abuse emotionally and probably physically. :dread:

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by <]:^D » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:35 am

imagine Boris actually having sex with anyone :dread:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Dual » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:36 am

He's old enough to be her dad as well.

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by KK » Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:41 am

<]:^D wrote:imagine Boris actually having sex with anyone :dread:

Boris doesn’t have sex, he has rumpy pumpy.

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by Squinty » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:30 am

This home office thing has been kinda frustrating to watch. Especially all the pile on and people sticking up for Priti Patel of all people (like, how?)

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by Moggy » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:36 am

Squinty wrote:This home office thing has been kinda frustrating to watch. Especially all the pile on and people sticking up for Priti Patel of all people (like, how?)


Because people treat politics in the same way as football teams. Your player could literally stomp on another players head while shouting “die die die!” and you’ll say “it was an accident and he barely touched him!”.

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by Squinty » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:50 am

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:This home office thing has been kinda frustrating to watch. Especially all the pile on and people sticking up for Priti Patel of all people (like, how?)


Because people treat politics in the same way as football teams. Your player could literally stomp on another players head while shouting “die die die!” and you’ll say “it was an accident and he barely touched him!”.


Yeah, that's it. It is pretty funny though.

- Don't like foreigners muddling in our affairs.
- Stick up for a woman who held meetings with a foreign power who want to muddle in our affairs.

Make no sense. But then whatever does these days.

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by Moggy » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:12 am

Squinty wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:This home office thing has been kinda frustrating to watch. Especially all the pile on and people sticking up for Priti Patel of all people (like, how?)


Because people treat politics in the same way as football teams. Your player could literally stomp on another players head while shouting “die die die!” and you’ll say “it was an accident and he barely touched him!”.


Yeah, that's it. It is pretty funny though.

- Don't like foreigners muddling in our affairs.
- Stick up for a woman who held meetings with a foreign power who want to muddle in our affairs.

Make no sense. But then whatever does these days.


Yep.

It’s the same with Leavers. For a long time they’ve been telling us we don’t need the rest of the world and that we should buy British, but I bet very few will speak out about things like this:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Moggy » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:43 am

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Jenuall » Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:22 am

Not surprised at all sadly, and that sort of thing is only the tip of the iceberg. :dread:


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