Politics Thread 6

[Dual]

I've got to say reading the Daily Sport headlines throughout the pandemic has been an absolute joy.

[VlaSoul]

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson



One of the lads

He's one of us! Who amongst the working class hasn't been educated at Eton and Oxford before using family connections to get a job at The Times?

who amongst us proletariat has not strawberry floated a dead pig head as initiation into some weird ancient lads club

[Ecno]

Shaun Bailey is a Conservative experiment in what is our base line support if we stick a Blue Rosette on a flower pot.

[Lex-Man]

Surely London is the worst place to try that experiment. I honestly think that the Tory bigwigs don't realise how bad he actually is. Although my conspiratorial thoughts tend towards them wanting to tank in London so they can push the "London isn't like the rest of the country" narrative.

[Jenuall]

Former French President Sarkozy found guilty of corruption and facing jail time, something I can't see any of the current Conservative government having to do sadly.

That sentence though:

Former French President Nicolas Sarkozy and two former associates have been sentenced to three years in jail - two of them suspended - for corruption.

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Sarkozy can serve the term at home.

In the ruling, the judge said Sarkozy could serve house arrest with an electronic tag. The ex-president is expected to appeal.

Basically my life now but I'm not married to a supermodel.

Sounds like a pretty kozy deal!

[Grumpy David]

This Salmond/Sturgeon situation is getting fairly spicy with the release of the legal advice documents.

What's the predictions? Sturgeon to resign? Or survive?

[Godzilla]

It's a non story. BBC and Scottish Tories pushing it but it's a non starter. UK PM has lied multiple times, Matt Hancock has, Priti has, they all have. All she has to do is focus on Covid and it'll go away.

[Lex-Man]

I still don't get what's happening. If it's helping anyone it seems like it's helping Scottish Labour as they're polling slightly better ATM.

[Tineash]

Alex Salmond definitely assaulted some women, but Nicola Sturgeon knew for longer than she'll admit, so she's the one at fault

[DML]

This Salmond/Sturgeon situation is getting fairly spicy with the release of the legal advice documents.

What's the predictions? Sturgeon to resign? Or survive?

Theres about as much chance of Nicola Sturgeon resigning as Scotland winning the Euros.

[Return_of_the_STAR]

She’s far too stubborn to resign. Very much sticks to her guns.

[Rocsteady]

twitter.com/RosamundUrwin/status/1366348509805481985

So many questions.....

Surely this isn't a real person

[Rocsteady]

This Salmond/Sturgeon situation is getting fairly spicy with the release of the legal advice documents.

What's the predictions? Sturgeon to resign? Or survive?

Theres about as much chance of Nicola Sturgeon resigning as Scotland winning the Euros.

Not sure I'd put Sturgeon's chances of going at 90%

[Moggy]

twitter.com/RosamundUrwin/status/1366348509805481985

So many questions.....

Surely this isn't a real person

Unfortunately he is real and Boris put him in charge of the NHS.

[Corazon de Leon]

It's a non story. BBC and Scottish Tories pushing it but it's a non starter. UK PM has lied multiple times, Matt Hancock has, Priti has, they all have. All she has to do is focus on Covid and it'll go away.

It’s not a non-story, she’s broken the ministerial code. If this were Ruth Davidson or another member of a party I don’t support, I would be quite vociferously calling for their head so it would be remiss not to here. She needs to go.

The whole thing is very confusing though, it seems like the issue with Sturgeon is that she knew about the allegations earlier than she should’ve, but when asked about it in parliament gave a knowingly false answer. Her backtracked excuse was “I’m the leader of a country, I get my dates mixed up because I’m very busy and important,” which is...not great really.

[Moggy]

It's a non story. BBC and Scottish Tories pushing it but it's a non starter. UK PM has lied multiple times, Matt Hancock has, Priti has, they all have. All she has to do is focus on Covid and it'll go away.

It’s not a non-story, she’s broken the ministerial code. If this were Ruth Davidson or another member of a party I don’t support, I would be quite vociferously calling for their head so it would be remiss not to here. She needs to go.

The whole thing is very confusing though, it seems like the issue with Sturgeon is that she knew about the allegations earlier than she should’ve, but when asked about it in parliament gave a knowingly false answer. Her backtracked excuse was “I’m the leader of a country, I get my dates mixed up because I’m very busy and important,” which is...not great really.

That's all true.

It's irritating to see Tories chasing this story though. They need to shut up until they sort out the liars at the top of their own party.

[Rex Kramer]

It's an interesting situation because I can see why Scottish independence voters would want her gone if she's broken the ministerial code as they want to hold their politicians to a higher standard than the scumbags at Westminster. But equally, there is a strong whiff of this being whipped up way beyond what it is by the Tories and the right wing press in a vain attempt to increase their support in the May elections and scupper the SNP as a whole because Sturgeon is obviously a real thorn in their side.

[Squinty]

Sturgeon isn't going to resign. Tories have normalized riding out political scandals. She will just do the same if she has lied, which is pretty strawberry floating damning, but it's the political reality we live in.

[Godzilla]

What's really sad about this is the fact that an alleged sex offender hasn't been brought to justice despite a lot of people knowing he was allegedly a very hands on politician.

Must be horrible for the victims that the focus isn't on that and instead on trying to damage the only UK based leader who has done a good job of handling the pandemic and is polling exceptionally well.

It's almost as if...labour and conservatives have something to gain from her going. Yet when Matt Hancock is found to be in the wrong, the leader of the opposition says the public don't want him to call for his resignation.

[Dowbocop]

It's an interesting situation because I can see why Scottish independence voters would want her gone if she's broken the ministerial code as they want to hold their politicians to a higher standard than the scumbags at Westminster. But equally, there is a strong whiff of this being whipped up way beyond what it is by the Tories and the right wing press in a vain attempt to increase their support in the May elections and scupper the SNP as a whole because Sturgeon is obviously a real thorn in their side.

It's almost a false equivalency to compare her tenability (if she has broken the ministerial code) against the tenability of senior Westminster Tories who have lied or otherwise fallen short of the expectations of public office, because the press in this country are looking for any way to vilify her and will put an obscene amount of pressure on her to resign if she has done anything remotely wrong. This does not happen if you're wearing a blue rosette.