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Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:21 am
by KK
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twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/1186253043681103874


What's rather ironic though is that whenever the royals want coverage, they now go to ITV instead of the BBC.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:05 pm
by Moggy

twitter.com/BNONews/status/1193698590641860608



strawberry float me :fp:

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:17 pm
by poshrule_uk
Someone I'm chatting too is telling me Corbyn voted against improving cladding standards in buildings but when I Google this I can't find anything. Can anyone point me in the right direction as I feel I'm talking to an idiot

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:20 am
by That
You can search his voting records on PublicWhip.org.uk. The most recent relevant piece of legislation I could find was https://www.publicwhip.org.uk/division.php?date=2016-01-12&house=commons&number=162. Labour voted for better regulations in rented accommodation, but the Tories blocked it.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:28 am
by poshrule_uk
Thanks, I found that before, really makes no sense how people can spout stuff that is so false

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:48 am
by Moggy
poshrule_uk wrote:Thanks, I found that before, really makes no sense how people can spout stuff that is so false


It’s a really easy way of convincing people, because people very rarely bother to check.

If I posted on Facebook “Did you know that Corbyn once voted for the UK to change the state religion to Islam?”, I guarantee that I would not only get likes, but would also convince a few people that it was true.

Look at how the “Lisbon treaty starts in 2020” bullshit is still being spread, it takes seconds to Google search and find out that it is bollocks, but people just believe what they see.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:52 am
by poshrule_uk
Moggy wrote:
poshrule_uk wrote:Thanks, I found that before, really makes no sense how people can spout stuff that is so false


It’s a really easy way of convincing people, because people very rarely bother to check.

If I posted on Facebook “Did you know that Corbyn once voted for the UK to change the state religion to Islam?”, I guarantee that I would not only get likes, but would also convince a few people that it was true.

Look at how the “Lisbon treaty starts in 2020” bullshit is still being spread, it takes seconds to Google search and find out that it is bollocks, but people just believe what they see.


None of this surprises me but what does is I'm talking to a head of business and economics at a school!

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:59 am
by Moggy
poshrule_uk wrote:
Moggy wrote:
poshrule_uk wrote:Thanks, I found that before, really makes no sense how people can spout stuff that is so false


It’s a really easy way of convincing people, because people very rarely bother to check.

If I posted on Facebook “Did you know that Corbyn once voted for the UK to change the state religion to Islam?”, I guarantee that I would not only get likes, but would also convince a few people that it was true.

Look at how the “Lisbon treaty starts in 2020” bullshit is still being spread, it takes seconds to Google search and find out that it is bollocks, but people just believe what they see.


None of this surprises me but what does is I'm talking to a head of business and economics at a school!


:lol:

It’s not just about intelligence, very intelligent people can fall for things if they look reasonably real.

Take your example, it is perfectly plausible at a quick glance that Corbyn might have once voted against cladding regulations. If somebody dislikes Corbyn/Labour then they are unlikely to do any research to see if it was true, they just immediately jump to “haha! Corbyn is a hypocrite!”.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:17 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Confirmation bias is like crack for these hacks.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:53 am
by Tafdolphin

twitter.com/dixieonline/status/1196341334732419072



strawberry floating savage

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:33 am
by Dual
strawberry floating LMAO

Y I K E S

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:04 am
by Preezy
Lorraine Kelly for Prime Minister

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:47 pm
by KK
German supermarket chain Lidl announcing it is investing £10million in the UK to boost wages for its 19,000 employees.

Beginning March 2020, Lidl says it will increase its entry-level pay from £9.00 to £9.30 an hour outside of London and £10.55 to £10.75 within the M25, going up to £11.70, depending on the location and length of service.

Christian Härtnagel, CEO at Lidl GB said: 'During this time of such uncertainty, we feel fortunate to be able to make this investment in our colleagues, and give them peace of mind with regards to their salary,’

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:52 pm
by Lagamorph
KK wrote:
German supermarket chain Lidl announcing it is investing £10million in the UK to boost wages for its 19,000 employees.

Beginning March 2020, Lidl says it will increase its entry-level pay from £9.00 to £9.30 an hour outside of London and £10.55 to £10.75 within the M25, going up to £11.70, depending on the location and length of service.

Christian Härtnagel, CEO at Lidl GB said: 'During this time of such uncertainty, we feel fortunate to be able to make this investment in our colleagues, and give them peace of mind with regards to their salary,’

Bloody foreigners. Coming over here, employing our people and raising their wages.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:06 pm
by Dual
Outrageous that a German company can do that in our country. LET'S GET BREXIT DONE

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:13 am
by Ecno
Lagamorph wrote:
KK wrote:
German supermarket chain Lidl announcing it is investing £10million in the UK to boost wages for its 19,000 employees.

Beginning March 2020, Lidl says it will increase its entry-level pay from £9.00 to £9.30 an hour outside of London and £10.55 to £10.75 within the M25, going up to £11.70, depending on the location and length of service.

Christian Härtnagel, CEO at Lidl GB said: 'During this time of such uncertainty, we feel fortunate to be able to make this investment in our colleagues, and give them peace of mind with regards to their salary,’

Bloody foreigners. Coming over here, employing our people and raising their wages.


Are they cutting anything? Sainsbury's and Tesco's both raised headline hourly but then eliminated paid breaks and staff bonuses.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:47 am
by That's not a growth
Asda are recently in the middle of a wage change that isn't as good as it seems at first glance, too.
But I'm more willing to believe Lidl isn't trying to secretly strawberry float over their staff than walmart.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:45 am
by Tomous
That's not a growth wrote:Asda are recently in the middle of a wage change that isn't as good as it seems at first glance, too.
But I'm more willing to believe Lidl isn't trying to secretly strawberry float over their staff than walmart.



I believe Aldi and Lidl both pay above minimum wage to their employees, and aim to hit the living wage. They're much better employers than the likes of Walmart, as you suggest.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:40 am
by KK
Different supermarkets are obviously going to have different working environments as well. Iceland for example keeps coming out top on The Times best employers table, but they ultimately pay less. Lower pay but a more relaxed working environment may suit, say, an older person better than the more hectic but higher paying 'you've got to do everything' approach of a Lidl.

As an aside, Inside The Supermarket: Sainsbury's is currently airing on BBC1 every Thursday, for those that fancy having a closer look at the inner workings of such things. Last episode they had Greenpeace protesting at head office because Sainsbury's are apparently the worst offenders on plastic packaging.

Re: Politics Thread 6

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:46 pm
by KK
Press Association wrote:Lib Dem leader's 'fake news' warning after false 'squirrel abuse' story goes viral

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Liberal Democrats leader Jo Swinson has warned the public to be wary of sharing misinformation after a story went viral that wrongly claimed she had abused squirrels.

Doctored images claiming to show an article on the Mirror’s website were shared thousands of times across Twitter and Facebook last week, including by a number of pro-Brexit and Brexit Party groups.

But Mirror executive editor Michael Greenwood tweeted today: “The Mirror website has never published a story about Jo Swinson and squirrels (until this one).”

The false story, written by non-existent journalist “Wurrance Telephene”, claimed the Lib Dem leader was blasted by animal rights charities after “harrowing footage” was found on a private Facebook account.

Speaking to LBC’s Iain Dale today, she said: “This sort of fake news is surprising to me, now that I am the leader of a party. This isn’t the only one, there has been various other fake news story. Sometimes using the byline of an established journalist.

“There was one that used Peter Walker’s name from the Guardian and he had to go online to debunk it and say he never wrote it.

“But they’re quite sophisticated in that people believe them.

“I do think it’s worrying because it has echoes of what we’ve seen in other elections. Particularly when you think about fake news and the technological possibility for deep fakes, where videos can be faked.

“I think it’s very difficult to prevent the spread.”

Researchers at First Draft, a non-profit group fighting misinformation, found that the false story was originally circulated among anonymous pro-Labour accounts, confined to a fairly small section of Twitter.


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The Sun has announced it is launching its trainee scheme for aspiring journalists "from all walks of life" to further diversify its team, with five spaces available to those without a degree qualification or prior training.

A further ten spaces are open to those who have already completed training with the National Council for the Training of Journalists, or equivalent.

It comes as The Sun's editor in chief Tony Gallagher has called for increased diversity in newsrooms to reflect the UK population.

The five trainees without prior experience will join a 40-week part time journalism course at News Associates, during which they will work in The Sun newsroom for three days a week.

The remaining ten will take part in a "journalism bootcamp" at News Associates followed by a placement with news agency SWNS at one of its UK offices. They will then get 12 months on-the-job training at The Sun.

All 15 trainees will receive a competitive salary and fully-funded training.