Re: Politics Thread 6
Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:55 pm
Drumstick wrote:Corazon de Leon wrote:You’re either Scottish or based in Scotland, aren’t you?
Even worse: Bristol.
Typical Palace fan.
Drumstick wrote:Corazon de Leon wrote:You’re either Scottish or based in Scotland, aren’t you?
Even worse: Bristol.
Corazon de Leon wrote:Lex-Man wrote:https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/shahmir-sanni-claims-brexiteers-hate-welsh-and-scots-in-the-national-podcast-1-6652698?fbclid=IwAR0D2cw9Ybj2WO3lgHmdxcTYG213mmf5_utwtUfSXLPEzf0MZuoeXM9QiBcSpeaking on The National’s Not Another Fake News Cast podcast, Shahmir Sanni said Westminster held a deep dislike for Wales and Scotland and urged its citizens to seek independence “as soon as you can”.
“I’m totally pro-independence. I am totally pro-independence. They (the government) hate the Scottish,” he was recorded saying.
“This is what a lot of people don’t understand - they genuinely, genuinely do not like Scotland. The whole idea of Scotland they don’t like, and this is something I never understood because I grew up in Pakistan.
To be honest I think the New European is a bit too biased for my liking but an interesting claim non the less.
The National isn’t exactly an unbiased bastion of reporting values either - I’d take that with a massive pinch of salt.
With that said, I don’t doubt that there is barely disguised contempt in some parts of parliament for the other countries in the UK.
Corazon de Leon wrote:I didn't see the location in the profile. I don't know why I've always been under the impression CRD was up here somewhere.
captain red dog wrote:Corazon de Leon wrote:I didn't see the location in the profile. I don't know why I've always been under the impression CRD was up here somewhere.
During the Indy Ref, I didn't want Scotland to go. But if I had that choice now I'd vote to leave the UK in a heartbeat. The only justification that made sense to me that was in times of national crisis we would be stronger together (wasn't that the no slogan or something?). However this crisis has shown that the UK parliament has little care or interest in listening to the devolved parliaments. There is no discussion and no negotiation, no democracy. Just look how the SNP leader is treated in our Parliament.
So yeah, Scotland should take any future chance they get. If the South West alone had a referendum I'd vote to leave Westminster.
Moggy wrote:captain red dog wrote:Corazon de Leon wrote:I didn't see the location in the profile. I don't know why I've always been under the impression CRD was up here somewhere.
During the Indy Ref, I didn't want Scotland to go. But if I had that choice now I'd vote to leave the UK in a heartbeat. The only justification that made sense to me that was in times of national crisis we would be stronger together (wasn't that the no slogan or something?). However this crisis has shown that the UK parliament has little care or interest in listening to the devolved parliaments. There is no discussion and no negotiation, no democracy. Just look how the SNP leader is treated in our Parliament.
So yeah, Scotland should take any future chance they get. If the South West alone had a referendum I'd vote to leave Westminster.
Restore Wessex?
Hypes wrote:Moggy wrote:captain red dog wrote:Corazon de Leon wrote:I didn't see the location in the profile. I don't know why I've always been under the impression CRD was up here somewhere.
During the Indy Ref, I didn't want Scotland to go. But if I had that choice now I'd vote to leave the UK in a heartbeat. The only justification that made sense to me that was in times of national crisis we would be stronger together (wasn't that the no slogan or something?). However this crisis has shown that the UK parliament has little care or interest in listening to the devolved parliaments. There is no discussion and no negotiation, no democracy. Just look how the SNP leader is treated in our Parliament.
So yeah, Scotland should take any future chance they get. If the South West alone had a referendum I'd vote to leave Westminster.
Restore Wessex?
Wessex is massively Tory
Hypes wrote:Moggy wrote:captain red dog wrote:Corazon de Leon wrote:I didn't see the location in the profile. I don't know why I've always been under the impression CRD was up here somewhere.
During the Indy Ref, I didn't want Scotland to go. But if I had that choice now I'd vote to leave the UK in a heartbeat. The only justification that made sense to me that was in times of national crisis we would be stronger together (wasn't that the no slogan or something?). However this crisis has shown that the UK parliament has little care or interest in listening to the devolved parliaments. There is no discussion and no negotiation, no democracy. Just look how the SNP leader is treated in our Parliament.
So yeah, Scotland should take any future chance they get. If the South West alone had a referendum I'd vote to leave Westminster.
Restore Wessex?
Wessex is massively Tory
Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people?
Moggy wrote:Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people?
Would a man of the people buy a field for their disabled mother to keep donkeys?
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Moggy wrote:Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people?
Would a man of the people buy a field for their disabled mother to keep donkeys?
Going by the actions of the electorate over the last few years I don't even want a man of the people, because that would make him a stupid, nasty twat.
Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people? Or is this the right-wing media trying to force a narrative?
Hmm, I wonder.
If wealth is the default factor in determining whether someone is "of the people" then there isn't a single MP that can be said to be "of the people"!
Karl_ wrote:Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people? Or is this the right-wing media trying to force a narrative?
Hmm, I wonder.
If wealth is the default factor in determining whether someone is "of the people" then there isn't a single MP that can be said to be "of the people"!
I'm not defending the article, which is obviously silly, but don't you think you're on to something there?
There aren't very many MPs that were poor when they became MPs, or have any genuine personal connection to poor communities. You'd agree that's a problem democratically, right?
Karl_ wrote:Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people? Or is this the right-wing media trying to force a narrative?
Hmm, I wonder.
If wealth is the default factor in determining whether someone is "of the people" then there isn't a single MP that can be said to be "of the people"!
I'm not defending the article, which is obviously silly, but don't you think you're on to something there?
There aren't very many MPs that were poor when they became MPs, or have any genuine personal connection to poor communities. You'd agree that's a problem democratically, right?
Moggy wrote:Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Moggy wrote:Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people?
Would a man of the people buy a field for their disabled mother to keep donkeys?
Going by the actions of the electorate over the last few years I don't even want a man of the people, because that would make him a stupid, nasty twat.
Yeah you're far better of sticking with people like Jo Swinson.....
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Moggy wrote:Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Moggy wrote:Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people?
Would a man of the people buy a field for their disabled mother to keep donkeys?
Going by the actions of the electorate over the last few years I don't even want a man of the people, because that would make him a stupid, nasty twat.
Yeah you're far better of sticking with people like Jo Swinson.....
...huh?
I'm describing the voting public en masse, with reference to results over the last few years. Not any one person or politician. I don't understand your response.
Moggy wrote:Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Moggy wrote:Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Moggy wrote:Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people?
Would a man of the people buy a field for their disabled mother to keep donkeys?
Going by the actions of the electorate over the last few years I don't even want a man of the people, because that would make him a stupid, nasty twat.
Yeah you're far better of sticking with people like Jo Swinson.....
...huh?
I'm describing the voting public en masse, with reference to results over the last few years. Not any one person or politician. I don't understand your response.
You said you didn't want a man of the people. I remembered your support of Jo Swinson and made a joke based on that.
I'll stick to Bradford jokes in future.
Karl_ wrote:Drumstick wrote:Who said he was a man of the people? Or is this the right-wing media trying to force a narrative?
Hmm, I wonder.
If wealth is the default factor in determining whether someone is "of the people" then there isn't a single MP that can be said to be "of the people"!
I'm not defending the article, which is obviously silly, but don't you think you're on to something there?
There aren't very many MPs that were poor when they became MPs, or have any genuine personal connection to poor communities. You'd agree that's a problem democratically, right?
There was a moment, as Paul Sweeney filled out his online application for universal credit, when the reality of the box-ticking hit home. “You’re thinking, Christ, when I was an MP I used to spend my days advocating for people who were caught up in all these benefits problems, and now here I am. It was bizarre.”
At the start of the year, it is fair to say that the former Scottish Labour member for Glasgow North East had no expectation of becoming one of the 2 million people who have applied for universal credit benefits since lockdown measures were implemented.
Lex-Man wrote:The NI unionist seem to be incredibly corrupt and only really out for money.