Politics Thread 6

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Who will you vote for at the next General Election?

Conservative
11
9%
Labour
50
40%
Liberal Democrat
26
21%
Green
20
16%
SNP
10
8%
Brexit Party
2
2%
UKIP
2
2%
Plaid Cymru
2
2%
DUP
0
No votes
Sinn Fein
2
2%
The Independent Group for Change
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 125
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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Cuttooth » Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:28 am

Moggy wrote:Russia is a good example of what happens when a country has capitalism with no regulation at all.

Listen, those in power handed themselves and their mates a whole heap of money and contracts to run privatised companies. That could never happen over here!

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by OrangeRKN » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:38 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Well I did totally forget that Russia was possibly not communist anymore :lol:


You're aware the soviet union collapsed right...?

The communist party holds 42 seats out of 450 in the state duma

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Squinty » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:47 am

I think that was a joke.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Igor » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:19 am

Moggy wrote:Russia is a good example of what happens when a country has capitalism with no regulation at all.


Russia is a good example of what happens when a country has a literal mafia as its 'government'.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Tomous » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:21 am

The UK is a good example of what happens when a country has the shitty posh kid in school with rich parents as its 'government'

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by OrangeRKN » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:31 am

Igor wrote:
Moggy wrote:Russia is a good example of what happens when a country has capitalism with no regulation at all.


Russia is a good example of what happens when a country has a literal mafia as its 'government'.


Thank god close relations to the Russian ruling elite aren't major Conservative party donors

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Trelliz » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:50 am

OrangeRKN wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Well I did totally forget that Russia was possibly not communist anymore :lol:


You're aware the soviet union collapsed right...?



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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by VlaSoul » Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:10 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
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Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I’m not defending the wests attitude towards homelessness here, I agree with the comments above but homelessness is believed to be a big problem in Russia, I wouldn’t call it barely a problem or practically non-existent. Most reports seem to estimate 4-5 million homeless in Russia.

Well the Russian Federation hasn't been communist for about 30 years. Homelessness didn't really exist for most of the duration of the USSR, but it became a problem again by the mid 90s.


Well I did totally forget that Russia was possibly not communist anymore :lol:

Russian are totally capitalist while being anti-liberal and retaining some of the worst aspects of the soviet union; aka corruption, lack of transparency and fake democracy
It's not a liberal capitalist democracy like the western countries, but it's decidely not communist. It's maybe more state capitalist I guess? To my understanding it's a plutocracy of sorts where the power and money is vested in the hands of a cabal of government figures and neo-boyar businessmen/mafia leaders. Obviously all capitalist systems are like this to some extent, but for all their problems in our system the people do have some say in political decisions and on occassion normal people can make it big financially too.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Moggy » Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:11 am

Igor wrote:
Moggy wrote:Russia is a good example of what happens when a country has capitalism with no regulation at all.


Russia is a good example of what happens when a country has a literal mafia as its 'government'.


Yep, the mafia are the ultimate unregulated capitalists.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Squinty » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:18 pm

So we've moved onto the petrol bombing buses phase of NI protesting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/northernirelan ... urce=share

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Meep » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:28 pm

There is no such thing as 'unregulated capitalism', capitalism can only exist because of strict rules governing property and trade. Commerce as it occurs within capitalism cannot work without the force the state underpinning everything.

Many capitalists don't want to acknowledge this because they hold to the argument that the way things work as 'natural' and not the artificially created system that it is.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Lex-Man » Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:43 pm

So would that make the Mafia a kind of government as they basically maintain rights of ownership through violence?

Amusement under late capitalism is the prolongation of work.
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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Tomous » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:54 pm

The Myanmar embassy in London has been siezed by military.

Interesting situation, not sure what we do. If anything. Doesn't sound like there are hostages or anything like that. Think they've just taken the building and locked down the doors :lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 pm

All going a little bit wrong in Northern Ireland again :dread:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Kanbei » Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:57 pm

This is what happens when the loyalist paramilitaries can't get their drugs from GB :lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Squinty » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:03 am

Kanbei wrote:This is what happens when the loyalist paramilitaries can't get their drugs from GB :lol:


Yeah, this is a part of it. They really shot themselves in the foot. Slap it up them.

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by Grumpy David » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:08 am

Kanbei wrote:This is what happens when the loyalist paramilitaries can't get their drugs from GB :lol:



Should have seen what happened when it snowed in Ireland and nowhere had fresh bread or milk:



Also discovered via that Norn Iron subreddit....this woman reversing her car:

https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/mm6u01/woman_drivers_no_survivors/

:dread:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Cuttooth » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:24 pm

twitter.com/BritainElects/status/1380116323523526659



A majority of 25 MSPs for independence would suggest Westminster better be preparing for a new referendum quickly.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by DML » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:29 pm

All these people who for months now have been predicting the downfall of the SNP, including certain people on this very forum must never have spoken to a Scot before.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Jenuall » Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:32 pm

People have been predicting the downfall of the SNP? :lol:


Alba doing well there!


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