Politics Thread 6

[Dual]

Let's nationalise railways and utilities first.

[Lex-Man]

Isn't the 200 mil just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Thomas Cook's debt. They owe billions to the banks, and have been in trouble for years.

[Rocsteady]

Bailing out TC is not a good long term idea.

[Preezy]

Transport secretary Grant Shapps has confirmed that the repatriation of Thomas Cook customers - known as Operation Matterhorn - will cost the taxpayer around £100m.

He tells the BBC's Today programme: "We know that the Monarch rescue was about £50m. We know that this is about 50% bigger."

Shouldn't it then be £75m, not £100m?

[Lex-Man]

Transport secretary Grant Shapps has confirmed that the repatriation of Thomas Cook customers - known as Operation Matterhorn - will cost the taxpayer around £100m.

He tells the BBC's Today programme: "We know that the Monarch rescue was about £50m. We know that this is about 50% bigger."

Shouldn't it then be £75m, not £100m?

You expect MPs to understand maths.

[Jenuall]

The extra £25m is to cover his expenses.

[Nun]

The people who tanked Thomas Cook are the ones who awarded themselves 20 million pound bonuses on their way out the door.

Bailing the company out without consequences for them just sets the precedent that the tax payer will foot the bill for other company bosses to the same in future.

[Moggy]

twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1176145585054859264

[KK]

Thomas Cook: The travel company went into administration this morning, with the Labour Party saying the government should have provided the funds to save Thomas Cook

29% of Britons agree the government should have stepped in

But 54% of Brits think they should not have

Labour voters (29%) are more likely than Conservative (17%) or Liberal Democrat (19%) voters to think the government should have stepped in.

But If They Had…: If the government had agreed to lend Thomas Cook the £200m they had asked for, would it have saved the company in the long term, or would it still have ended up collapsing?

63% think it would still have ended up collapsing

Just one in ten (12%) think it would have saved the company in the long term

Skools Out: Labour party members have voted to commit the party to integrate private schools into the state sector

But half (50%) of Britons generally oppose a ban on private schools

One in five (22%) would support a ban

Labour voters are split – 38% would support, while 35% would oppose, a ban

75% of Conservative voters oppose a ban, compared to 7% who support one

And Liberal Democrat voters also oppose (50%) a ban in much greater numbers than support (2%) one

Labour doing well here...

[Herdanos]

The general public also voted for Brexit, though, so public support in and of itself isn't a reasonable barometer of whether something is a good idea. Look at the polls that show up every so often asking if we should bring back hanging.

Whether or not a majority of voters have been successfully conditioned to believe private schooling is in the interest of the general populace, has no bearing on the truth of the matter: that abolishing private schools is overwhelmingly, undeniably, the right thing to do.

[Hexx]

Some confusion over the vote - but Lab have backed having no position in Brexit as they go into any GE

twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1176175094554595339

We can but hope it accelerates the death spiral the cult is in

[Moggy]

It might be for the best if a potential future Labour government hold a referendum but stay the hell out of the campaign.

[Hypes]

Thomas Cook: The travel company went into administration this morning, with the Labour Party saying the government should have provided the funds to save Thomas Cook

29% of Britons agree the government should have stepped in

But 54% of Brits think they should not have

Labour voters (29%) are more likely than Conservative (17%) or Liberal Democrat (19%) voters to think the government should have stepped in.

And SNP voters (30%) and UKIP voters (31%)

[Moggy]

Thomas Cook: The travel company went into administration this morning, with the Labour Party saying the government should have provided the funds to save Thomas Cook

29% of Britons agree the government should have stepped in

But 54% of Brits think they should not have

Labour voters (29%) are more likely than Conservative (17%) or Liberal Democrat (19%) voters to think the government should have stepped in.

And SNP voters (30%) and UKIP voters (31%)

With their collapse in votes, 31% of UKIP voters means 3 people.

[That]

I'm not sure about "bailed out" but Thomas Cook should probably have been renationalised.

[Cuttooth]

Some confusion over the vote - but Lab have backed having no position in Brexit as they go into any GE

twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1176175094554595339

We can but hope it accelerates the death spiral the cult is in

It's obviously nicer this wasn't the case, but I'm not sure what the big deal is with this vote? Labour back a second referendum with Remain as a choice, surely that's all they really need to do right now?

[Errkal]

I'm not sure about "bailed out" but Thomas Cook should probably have been renationalised.

It’s a holiday company, as far as I’m aware they were never nationalised so renationalised isn’t the right world, and why the crap would you nationalise holiday companies.

They failed, it sucks but they shouldn’t be the subject of national spending.

[That]

I'm not sure about "bailed out" but Thomas Cook should probably have been renationalised.

It’s a holiday company, as far as I’m aware they were never nationalised so renationalised isn’t the right world, and why the crap would you nationalise holiday companies.

They failed, it sucks but they shouldn’t be the subject of national spending.

Thomas Cook was privatised by the Tories in 1972.

[Hypes]

Thomas Cook: The travel company went into administration this morning, with the Labour Party saying the government should have provided the funds to save Thomas Cook

29% of Britons agree the government should have stepped in

But 54% of Brits think they should not have

Labour voters (29%) are more likely than Conservative (17%) or Liberal Democrat (19%) voters to think the government should have stepped in.

And SNP voters (30%) and UKIP voters (31%)

With their collapse in votes, 31% of UKIP voters means 3 people.

YouGov doesn't include a Brexit Party breakdown so I presume it's still classed as UKIP

[Rex Kramer]

Some confusion over the vote - but Lab have backed having no position in Brexit as they go into any GE

twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1176175094554595339

We can but hope it accelerates the death spiral the cult is in

It's obviously nicer this wasn't the case, but I'm not sure what the big deal is with this vote? Labour back a second referendum with Remain as a choice, surely that's all they really need to do right now?

Sure, because going into an election with an ambiguous position on the biggest issue in British politics worked so well for them last time round.