Politics Thread 6 - Boris says “porn for everyone!”

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Who will you vote for at the next General Election?

Conservative
9
11%
Labour
26
31%
Liberal Democrat
24
28%
Green
18
21%
SNP
6
7%
Brexit Party
0
No votes
UKIP
0
No votes
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
DUP
0
No votes
Sinn Fein
2
2%
The Independent Group for Change
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 85
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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Rex Kramer » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:16 pm

Moggy wrote:
BID0 wrote:That's good news and without wanting to jinx it, I can't see the Brexit Party getting those 35 seats either to break even. Especially when TBP would have to have a manifesto of some sort beyond just "no deal Brexit".


The Brexit Party shouldn’t be allowed to stand for Parliament with their current set up. They are basically just a company, there’s no democracy in the party at all.

But if they’re going to take Tory votes....

They won't, they'll come to an election pact with Johnson and take those northern seats that are close between Labour and the Tories (my constituency of Broxtowe for example). Labour will get shafted in non-metropolitan northern seats as this is purely going to be fought on Brexit.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Moggy » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:19 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:
Moggy wrote:
BID0 wrote:That's good news and without wanting to jinx it, I can't see the Brexit Party getting those 35 seats either to break even. Especially when TBP would have to have a manifesto of some sort beyond just "no deal Brexit".


The Brexit Party shouldn’t be allowed to stand for Parliament with their current set up. They are basically just a company, there’s no democracy in the party at all.

But if they’re going to take Tory votes....

They won't, they'll come to an election pact with Johnson and take those northern seats that are close between Labour and the Tories (my constituency of Broxtowe for example). Labour will get shafted in non-metropolitan northern seats as this is purely going to be fought on Brexit.




I’m not convinced there will be a Tory/BP pact. Nigel is the sort that wants to pick up a fat salary and lots of donations, but he doesn’t really want to have to deal with reality.

Best thing for Nige would be for the country to Renain. He could then spend the rest if his life bitching about it and picking up cash.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Rex Kramer » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:22 pm

Boris will tell anyone whatever it is he thinks they need to hear to keep him in power.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Moggy » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:31 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:Boris will tell anyone whatever it is he thinks they need to hear to keep him in power.


And everybody knows that and they also know that he’s a liar.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Garth » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:22 pm



287 seats apparently with YouGov's current polling stats.

Edit: YouGov says this one wasn't from them.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Drumstick » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:31 pm

That's still far, far too many. They don't deserve anywhere near that amount.

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by OrangeRKN » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:42 pm

I mean they don't deserve any but what can you do

Any attempt to subvert our democracy should be met with absolute entrenched resistance from the democratic process. It hugely worries me that to many people it isn't even a concern. Any vote for the Conservatives at this point is a vote for that very vote to be held meaningless.

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:45 pm

One seat would be far too many.

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by Karl_ » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:49 pm

Remember that the smart money is on the Tories doing worse than predicted now, pre-campaign. If they are predicted to lose seats now, there is real hope they will be decimated once the manifestos go out and the fair coverage rules kick in.

I'm expecting a hung Parliament and I don't foresee any help from the Lib Dems, so God knows what would happen when it came to forming a coalition, but there is actually some hope for Labour being the largest party.

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by OrangeRKN » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:57 pm

I'm expecting nothing less than a Green Surge in this, the year of the linux desktop

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by Karl_ » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:03 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:I'm expecting nothing less than a Green Surge in this, the year of the linux desktop

Half-Life 3 announced at EGX London in October (exclusive to Steam for Linux) with an official endorsement of Caroline Lucas for PM. Microsoft immediately go bust, and gamers finally rise up, their bloc vote ensuring 400 seats for the Greens.

This is, technically, possible.

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by OrangeRKN » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:06 pm

Half-Life 3 will be a walking simulator like Gone Home, because Caroline Lucas loves environmental storytellling

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by Corazon de Leon » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:10 pm

Karl_ wrote:Remember that the smart money is on the Tories doing worse than predicted now, pre-campaign. If they are predicted to lose seats now, there is real hope they will be decimated once the manifestos go out and the fair coverage rules kick in.

I'm expecting a hung Parliament and I don't foresee any help from the Lib Dems, so God knows what would happen when it came to forming a coalition, but there is actually some hope for Labour being the largest party.


The expectation up here seems to be another yellow wave, if not quite as all-encompassing as the one we got in 2015 - Swinson will lamentably keep her seat, as will David Mundell and a couple of Labour candidates(hopefully not the former schoolmate of mine who is the MP for Springburn and Dennistoun).

What I’d expect to happen in that case is that Labour will ultimately have to get into bed with the SNP to gain a majority, with the price being Indyref 2: Independence Harder. I’d then expect Scotland to be an independent nation by about 2025.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Karl_ » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:15 pm

Had a bit of a moment there where it blew my mind that 2025 is just around the corner (in political terms anyway). A quarter of a century wasted. :slol: :dread:

Feels like the country has in many ways actually regressed since 2000. Post-2000 New Labour was marred by the Iraq war, then we had the expenses scandal, then austerity and the massive increase in poverty and inequality, now we have Brexit and the rise of the far-right.

We should really sort out all that climate change stuff soon, eh? Just been sitting on that too. An Inconvenient Truth was in 2006.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Garth » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:40 pm

Bercow's going:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Mini E » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:42 pm

Bercow :lol: :lol: Trying to be a pain in the arse of the Tories wherever possible.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Moggy » Mon Sep 09, 2019 3:44 pm

Garth wrote:Bercow's going:


Maximum trolling :lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - We don’t need no education
by Garth » Mon Sep 09, 2019 4:27 pm


:slol:

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by Winckle » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:04 pm

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Parliament crazy right now, government benches almost empty, opposition benches full and angry. No law officers there except the foreign secretary.

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by Lex-Man » Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:48 pm

Karl_ wrote:Had a bit of a moment there where it blew my mind that 2025 is just around the corner (in political terms anyway). A quarter of a century wasted. :slol: :dread:

Feels like the country has in many ways actually regressed since 2000. Post-2000 New Labour was marred by the Iraq war, then we had the expenses scandal, then austerity and the massive increase in poverty and inequality, now we have Brexit and the rise of the far-right.

We should really sort out all that climate change stuff soon, eh? Just been sitting on that too. An Inconvenient Truth was in 2006.


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