Politics Thread 6

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Who will you vote for at the next General Election?

Conservative
16
10%
Labour
64
41%
Liberal Democrat
28
18%
Green
22
14%
SNP
16
10%
Brexit Party
4
3%
UKIP
2
1%
Plaid Cymru
3
2%
DUP
1
1%
Sinn Fein
2
1%
The Independent Group for Change
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 158
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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by Moggy » Tue Oct 08, 2019 3:52 pm

Earfolds wrote:
Moggy wrote:I think they are being overly paranoid there. If Corbyn suddenly decided to seize power and refuse an election then they could easily collapse his government.

Perhaps, but there are other reasons why they won't support Corbyn, and unlike everyone else right now, they can't be whipped to support anyone.


Which is why a more neutral temporary leader (like Harman or Clarke) that isn’t a party leader would be a perfect choice. Nobody would believe either of those are making a power grab or were trying to implement a wholesale set of changes. They would literally be there to either get an extension and election or to be in charge while a referendum is called.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by Earfolds » Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:12 pm

Moggy wrote:
Earfolds wrote:
Moggy wrote:I think they are being overly paranoid there. If Corbyn suddenly decided to seize power and refuse an election then they could easily collapse his government.

Perhaps, but there are other reasons why they won't support Corbyn, and unlike everyone else right now, they can't be whipped to support anyone.


Which is why a more neutral temporary leader (like Harman or Clarke) that isn’t a party leader would be a perfect choice. Nobody would believe either of those are making a power grab or were trying to implement a wholesale set of changes. They would literally be there to either get an extension and election or to be in charge while a referendum is called.

Aye, and this is exactly what people like Jo Swinson are asking for. It would be extremely risky to call a vote of no confidence before we've chosen a candidate that can command a majority, as it would then lead to a general election, the date of which would certainly be after the 31st of October, and a no deal Brexit would be inevitable.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by Garth » Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:00 pm

twitter.com/i/status/1181594576395603968


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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by massimo » Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:19 pm

Can someone explain this for me. Why does Corbyn want to be interim prime minister so badly?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by That » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:20 pm

massimo wrote:Can someone explain this for me. Why does Corbyn want to be interim prime minister so badly?

It's a huge optics win, you can claim to be the sensible person who was trusted to steady the tiller.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by Rex Kramer » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:20 pm

Because it's his only chance to actually be Prime Minister?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by Garth » Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:35 pm

twitter.com/alexcobham/status/1181616539222581249


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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by Moggy » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:05 pm

Garth wrote:

twitter.com/alexcobham/status/1181616539222581249



What happened when the League of Nations started to collapse?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by satriales » Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:10 pm

massimo wrote:Can someone explain this for me. Why does Corbyn want to be interim prime minister so badly?

If he is leader for a few weeks people might see that he's not as bad as the papers and Tories say, and they wouldn't be able to use those same scare tactics again in the upcoming election. That is also the reason Lib Dems don't want him as leader.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - Prorogue Part 2
by Samuel_1 » Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:50 pm

Earfolds wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Earfolds wrote:
Moggy wrote:I think they are being overly paranoid there. If Corbyn suddenly decided to seize power and refuse an election then they could easily collapse his government.

Perhaps, but there are other reasons why they won't support Corbyn, and unlike everyone else right now, they can't be whipped to support anyone.


Which is why a more neutral temporary leader (like Harman or Clarke) that isn’t a party leader would be a perfect choice. Nobody would believe either of those are making a power grab or were trying to implement a wholesale set of changes. They would literally be there to either get an extension and election or to be in charge while a referendum is called.

Aye, and this is exactly what people like Jo Swinson are asking for. It would be extremely risky to call a vote of no confidence before we've chosen a candidate that can command a majority, as it would then lead to a general election, the date of which would certainly be after the 31st of October, and a no deal Brexit would be inevitable.

What you say maybe true. However, I still maintain that she is an awful leader for the Lib Dems; in her time in the coalition government she failed to act as a mitigating force, instead she chose to enable most of their more egregious activities by voting for them. Oh, there is also the small matter that she thinks Thatcher is deserving of any sort of admiration.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by Garth » Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:42 pm

twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1182339933199052802


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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by Memento Mori » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:06 pm

Garth wrote:

twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1182339933199052802


I'm getting deja vu.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by Cuttooth » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:43 pm

Change GB

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by Moggy » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:47 pm

Cuttooth wrote:Change GB


:lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by That » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:48 pm

Then a few weeks later they'll rename to The Independent Political Grouping

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by Garth » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:51 pm

TeamGB.org

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by Rocsteady » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:48 am

Over in Warsaw and it's the Polish elections today! :dread: :(

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by Cuttooth » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:07 am

twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1183309514411597824



Government apparently going to announce some good old fashioned voter suppression. :toot:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by massimo » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:24 am

Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1183309514411597824



Government apparently going to announce some good old fashioned voter suppression. :toot:

strawberry float these Tory banana splits and anyone enabling them. I’ll be contacting my local Tory MP this week. This is some republican style bullshit.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6 - The Queen's political broadcast due 14/10/19
by Samuel_1 » Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:00 pm

Cuttooth wrote:

twitter.com/Jim_Cornelius/status/1183309514411597824



Government apparently going to announce some good old fashioned voter suppression. :toot:

Can they just do this without a vote in parliament?

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