Politics Thread 6

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Who will you vote for at the next General Election?

Conservative
16
10%
Labour
64
41%
Liberal Democrat
28
18%
Green
22
14%
SNP
16
10%
Brexit Party
4
3%
UKIP
2
1%
Plaid Cymru
3
2%
DUP
1
1%
Sinn Fein
2
1%
The Independent Group for Change
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 158
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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Moggy » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:28 pm

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His dad deals with talking to foreign governments and his girlfriend decides on his cabinet.

But at least he “got Brexit done” eh? :lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Rex Kramer » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:50 pm

Not to get everyone too worried, but Boris has got his sights on 'building' another bridge.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Squinty » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:51 pm

Austerity eh?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Lex-Man » Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:33 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:Not to get everyone too worried, but Boris has got his sights on 'building' another bridge.


I'm shocked he hasn't started to build an airport in the Thames estuary. That was one of his big plans.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Hexx » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:08 pm

Lex-Man wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:Not to get everyone too worried, but Boris has got his sights on 'building' another bridge.


I'm shocked he hasn't started to build an airport in the Thames estuary. That was one of his big plans.


He didn't push it as it had no alliteration

Boris Bikes, Boris Buses, Boris Bridge etc.

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by Lex-Man » Mon Feb 10, 2020 3:33 pm

Hexx wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:Not to get everyone too worried, but Boris has got his sights on 'building' another bridge.


I'm shocked he hasn't started to build an airport in the Thames estuary. That was one of his big plans.


He didn't push it as it had no alliteration

Boris Bikes, Boris Buses, Boris Bridge etc.


Arsehat airport?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Photek » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:19 pm

Sinn fein have smashed it out of the park this election. Astounding performance, although, it looks like we are headed for another election in a few months as neither Fianna Fail or Fianna Gael want to share a government with Sinn Fein despite SF being having the most numbers, if they form a government between FF and FG there would be major protests as SF would have been neglected. Hold onto your butts!

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by Lex-Man » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:28 pm

Photek wrote:Sinn fein have smashed it out of the park this election. Astounding performance, although, it looks like we are headed for another election in a few months as neither Fianna Fail or Fianna Gael want to share a government with Sinn Fein despite SF being having the most numbers, if they form a government between FF and FG there would be major protests as SF would have been neglected. Hold onto your butts!


SF have a load of other seats they can try for don't they? The could do even better on another run, couldn't they?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Meep » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:39 pm

SF did not run for as many seats so those numbers are not going to be completely reflect the outcome.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Moggy » Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:41 pm

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I’m not saying all Tory voters are racist pricks, but you are supporting a lot of racist pricks.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Cuttooth » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:32 pm

No political event has enraged me more in the past few years than Windrush, and the callous and outright cruel way a government and its institutions can treat someone's life just because they are a minority.

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by Moggy » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:35 pm

Cuttooth wrote:No political event has enraged me more in the past few years than Windrush, and the callous and outright cruel way a government and its institutions can treat someone's life just because they are a minority.


It’s getting worse now than it was under Theresa May. And the scandal just doesn’t seem to be there now.

We’ll have babies in cages soon.

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by Samuel_1 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:26 pm

Photek wrote:Sinn fein have smashed it out of the park this election. Astounding performance, although, it looks like we are headed for another election in a few months as neither Fianna Fail or Fianna Gael want to share a government with Sinn Fein despite SF being having the most numbers, if they form a government between FF and FG there would be major protests as SF would have been neglected. Hold onto your butts!

I have no knowledge of Irish politics, would SF be the Labour equivalent? And and what does that make FF and FG?

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by Moggy » Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:31 pm

Samuel_1 wrote:
Photek wrote:Sinn fein have smashed it out of the park this election. Astounding performance, although, it looks like we are headed for another election in a few months as neither Fianna Fail or Fianna Gael want to share a government with Sinn Fein despite SF being having the most numbers, if they form a government between FF and FG there would be major protests as SF would have been neglected. Hold onto your butts!

I have no knowledge of Irish politics, would SF be the Labour equivalent? And and what does that make FF and FG?


Not really.

Irish parties:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/ireland2020

UK parties:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2019

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by KK » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:05 pm

HS2 given the go-ahead by the government, to be officially announced tomorrow.

And so the decade+ wait for it to be built and completed begins. I wonder if the final stages (Crewe to Manchester, for example) will actually see the light of day.

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by Moggy » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:08 pm

KK wrote:HS2 given the go-ahead by the government, to be officially announced tomorrow.

And so the decade+ wait for it to be built and completed begins. I wonder if the final stages (Crewe to Manchester, for example) will actually see the light of day.


With the latest ideas from Boris, I expect it to be extended from the Thames Estuary Airport to Enniskillen.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Samuel_1 » Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:51 pm

Moggy wrote:
Samuel_1 wrote:
Photek wrote:Sinn fein have smashed it out of the park this election. Astounding performance, although, it looks like we are headed for another election in a few months as neither Fianna Fail or Fianna Gael want to share a government with Sinn Fein despite SF being having the most numbers, if they form a government between FF and FG there would be major protests as SF would have been neglected. Hold onto your butts!

I have no knowledge of Irish politics, would SF be the Labour equivalent? And and what does that make FF and FG?


Not really.

Irish parties:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/ireland2020

UK parties:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2019

Thanks, surprised the right wing has had such a strangle hold on Irish politics recently.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Rax » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:52 am

Samuel_1 wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Samuel_1 wrote:
Photek wrote:Sinn fein have smashed it out of the park this election. Astounding performance, although, it looks like we are headed for another election in a few months as neither Fianna Fail or Fianna Gael want to share a government with Sinn Fein despite SF being having the most numbers, if they form a government between FF and FG there would be major protests as SF would have been neglected. Hold onto your butts!

I have no knowledge of Irish politics, would SF be the Labour equivalent? And and what does that make FF and FG?


Not really.

Irish parties:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/ireland2020

UK parties:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2019

Thanks, surprised the right wing has had such a strangle hold on Irish politics recently.

Recently? Its been since the founding of the state. Its usually been Fianna Fail in power and on the rare occasions people have enough of their gooseberry fool its Fine Gael which are Fianna Fail just with a blue logo, then right back to Fianna Fail. this is the first time, I think ever, that it hasnt been those 2 parties as the largest in the Dail. We are unlikely to get a government out of it so we will probably have a fresh election but that will likely just give Sinn Fein the chance to run more candidates and hoover up more seats so it will be interesting to see how Fianna Fail and Fine Gael are going to be able to avoid that.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Cuttooth » Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:57 am

Moggy wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:No political event has enraged me more in the past few years than Windrush, and the callous and outright cruel way a government and its institutions can treat someone's life just because they are a minority.


It’s getting worse now than it was under Theresa May. And the scandal just doesn’t seem to be there now.

We’ll have babies in cages soon.

The scandal isn't there because they're deporting people with a criminal record instead of people who are simply trying to sign on or get NHS treatment. The main thing the government has understood from the Windrush "lessons learnt" review I guess will be who exactly you can target without too many people giving a gooseberry fool. There is no greater evidence for the fact that we have a multi tiered way we treat people who are British than how we treat adults who have committed a crime and served their sentence. It suggests minorities who came to the UK as children have to always hold themselves to a higher standard than those around them born here.

The Home Office this morning has deported people to Jamaica despite a court order saying they shouldn't. A day of genuine national shame.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 6
by Lagamorph » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:01 am

Cuttooth wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Cuttooth wrote:No political event has enraged me more in the past few years than Windrush, and the callous and outright cruel way a government and its institutions can treat someone's life just because they are a minority.


It’s getting worse now than it was under Theresa May. And the scandal just doesn’t seem to be there now.

We’ll have babies in cages soon.

The scandal isn't there because they're deporting people with a criminal record instead of people who are simply trying to sign on or get NHS treatment. The main thing the government has understood from the Windrush "lessons learnt" review I guess will be who exactly you can target without too many people giving a gooseberry fool. There is no greater evidence for the fact that we have a multi tiered way we treat people who are British than how we treat adults who have committed a crime and served their sentence. It suggests minorities who came to the UK as children have to always hold themselves to a higher standard than those around them born here.

The Home Office this morning has deported people to Jamaica despite a court order saying they shouldn't. A day of genuine national shame.

I was reading about the deportation this morning and the government are basically claiming a technicality. They haven't deported the people who were covered by the court order, but technically only people who had O2 Sim cards were covered by the court order, so they could proceed with deportation of everyone else according to them.

I'm sure the government were very thorough in checking and that they absolutely haven't made any mistakes and 'accidentally' deported someone who should have been covered by the court order.

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