Tafdolphin wrote:Return_of_the_STAR wrote:coldspice wrote:Blue line profile pic indicates trustworthiness
He’s an ex police officer who attends these events to act as an observer.
My point is that there are always different sides to the narratives. There’s no reason to trust him anymore or less than tweets from others. That’s my point. Even feeds from people like HUCK are clearly biased towards the protesters to the point that they completely ignore the criminal element. People either have a vested interest in attacking or defending rather than remaining independent.
But in this case, the alternate perspective you posted showed...the same thing? Police smashing into stationary protestors. You're just proving my previous posts right: you constantly give the benefit of the doubt to the oppressors as the objective truth is an impossible goal.
You say "none of us were there, so we can't really say what happened!" I wonder, really wonder, what your reaction would be if one of us
had been there and
had been charged (as in "stampeded" not "with a crime") by the police? Would you change your views?
Of course not, because as discussed this search for the complete objective truth is a smokescreen to hide your biases while you attempt to hold the middle ground. Dude...
it's not working.Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Out of interest can anyone defend what’s going on below? It seems relatively minor in the grand scheme of what was happening yesterday but I feel the ‘protesters’ are totally out of order. One even kicks the car.
twitter.com/normanbrennan/status/1378573583476264964
If that is acceptable to you then what about blocking the M32? Which also happened yesterday.
The protestors politely ask the guy to go around. The kick is unwarranted, but there's no violence here. Also:
1: Coincidentally I'm sure, the guy who tweeted this is ex-police. So where's your benefit of the doubt for the protestors here? What if they were stopping the traffic because someone up ahead was injured in the road?
2: Absolutely people should block the M32 if that will help their cause. Civil disobedience is a proven method of enacting societal change.
Do you agree with the latter part of 2, by the way? If, as I suspect, not then what methods would you deem acceptable for the public to show their discontent re: matters of state?
Prototype wrote:I assume people who have banners with "ACAB","Kill Cops" and "KilltheBill" absolve themselves from ever using their services?
They all seem like level-headed, rational people
Why would you say this? Are people immediately not allowed to use things they actively dislike? How does that work? By this metric, does everyone who uses Amazon automatically approve of their systemic worker abuse?
Oh and that "Kill Cops" banner?
Yeah (also if you didn't already see, the guy holding it up as "Kill Cops" was later spotted behind police lines, chatting with officers).