Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24

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Who will you vote for at the next General Election?

Conservatives
8
7%
Labour
74
61%
SNP
6
5%
Lib Dems
7
6%
DUP
1
1%
Sinn Fein
1
1%
Plaid Cymru
2
2%
SDLP
0
No votes
Alba
0
No votes
Greens
18
15%
Alliance
0
No votes
Other
4
3%
 
Total votes: 121
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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Preezy » Wed May 22, 2024 7:19 pm

Time to let someone else drive the bus, Rishi.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed May 22, 2024 7:23 pm

Moggy wrote:Image

The Tory Minister For State Propaganda is sounding worried.


I mean she can’t be anymore obvious there that she’s not impartial.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by rinks » Wed May 22, 2024 7:32 pm

It only dawned on me today just how much he sounds like Will from The Inbetweeners.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by aayl1 » Wed May 22, 2024 7:33 pm

rinks wrote:It only dawned on me today just how much he sounds like Will from The Inbetweeners.


You're not alone in that!

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifest ... 10553.html

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Cuttooth » Wed May 22, 2024 7:38 pm

Parliament is prorogued on Friday. What actually happens if enough Tory MPs get their letters in by the end of tomorrow? Would they just ignore it?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Return_of_the_STAR » Wed May 22, 2024 7:43 pm

Cuttooth wrote:Parliament is prorogued on Friday. What actually happens if enough Tory MPs get their letters in by the end of tomorrow? Would they just ignore it?


I would assume it’s down to the Tory park to sort out as the letters of no confidence are in his leadership of the party.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Rex Kramer » Wed May 22, 2024 7:44 pm

I don't see it happening. The decision to call the election is done, parliament is dissolved. Binning the leader just looks even more incompetent at this point.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by rinks » Wed May 22, 2024 7:46 pm

aayl1 wrote:
rinks wrote:It only dawned on me today just how much he sounds like Will from The Inbetweeners.


You're not alone in that!

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/lifest ... 10553.html


Ha I guessed it was a connection that people would have made long ago, it’s so obvious. Can’t figure out why I never noticed before.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Sprouty » Wed May 22, 2024 7:49 pm

Garth wrote:

twitter.com/Mij_Europe/status/1793340726299750714



The 5th point here is similar to something I've read elsewhere, and something which could be key. Simply put, whilst the bigger parties are ready for an election, Reform are not. Those 12 percentage points they currently hold in the polls are going to get squeezed by the much larger political machines. Catching Reform off guard may dictate where they focus their resources and could have a real impact on the outcome, if those voters shift to Tories.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Cuttooth » Wed May 22, 2024 7:49 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:I don't see it happening. The decision to call the election is done, parliament is dissolved. Binning the leader just looks even more incompetent at this point.

There are a solid 200 Tory MPs facing the prospect of having to find another job in six weeks. They basically have nothing to lose at this point.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Tomous » Wed May 22, 2024 7:59 pm

Rex Kramer wrote:I don't see it happening. The decision to call the election is done, parliament is dissolved. Binning the leader just looks even more incompetent at this point.


Parliament hasn't been dissolved yet. That will happen on 30th May. So they have until then to bin him if they want to. It would make them look even more incompetent though I agree.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by more heat than light » Wed May 22, 2024 8:23 pm

Genuinely can't wait. It's the first time in my lifetime where my vote actually might have a say. My constituency has always voted blue, electoralcalculus currently shows a 42% chance of a Labour win.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Grumpy David » Wed May 22, 2024 8:23 pm

I'm trying to think of the best policy or legislation change the Tories did in the last few years (ignoring furlough and the energy cap) and all I can think of is the decision to add the American XL Bully breed to the banned list. :lol: Being quick to help Ukraine fight back was good but that's not a close enough to home issue.

The Leasehold reform bill probably won't get through the remaining stages (not that the watered down changes really offer much improvement). Probably find enough time to squeeze in a stupid policy that no one was asking for (the cigarette ban).

Very little was achieved despite the parliamentary majority.

I could see Starmer borrowing a Reagan phrase of "Are you better off than you were four years ago?" and using it to great effect.

Sprouty wrote:
Garth wrote:

twitter.com/Mij_Europe/status/1793340726299750714



The 5th point here is similar to something I've read elsewhere, and something which could be key. Simply put, whilst the bigger parties are ready for an election, Reform are not. Those 12 percentage points they currently hold in the polls are going to get squeezed by the much larger political machines. Catching Reform off guard may dictate where they focus their resources and could have a real impact on the outcome, if those voters shift to Tories.


Point 6. Can move to California with a good bit of time before his daughters start at a new school.

Reform haven't even selected candidates for the constituencies where the Brexit Party performed well in 2019. Although I suspect many Reform voters just wouldn't turn up to vote rather than turning up and holding their nose whilst they vote Tory so it might not have too much effect.

Labour also need to get a move on too. They haven't selected the replacement candidate for Islington North (Corbyn's seat) . Presumably with Diane Abbott still suspended the Hackney North seat will need a replacement candidate too.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Garth » Wed May 22, 2024 8:25 pm

twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1793359914137464960


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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Garth » Wed May 22, 2024 8:25 pm

twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1793354876396744756


twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1793354101473870230


He says: “This is a disaster - he is condemning the Tory party to election oblivion.”
A second Tory MP told me: “This is absolute madness. The launch was a farce.”

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Cuttooth » Wed May 22, 2024 8:33 pm

I can't think of a way an election campaign launch could have feasibly gone worse than the last few hours. :lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Lex-Man » Wed May 22, 2024 8:40 pm

I can't believe people are talking about a VonC against Sunak at this stage.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Rex Kramer » Wed May 22, 2024 8:44 pm

Cuttooth wrote:I can't think of a way an election campaign launch could have feasibly gone worse than the last few hours. :lol:

He's managed to make himself look even more ridiculous than normal. Nothing screams competent leadership like a man stood in the pouring rain without a strawberry floating umbrella. Daft twat.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by rinks » Wed May 22, 2024 8:53 pm

Garth wrote:

twitter.com/christopherhope/status/1793354876396744756


Ahh, such a shame. Maybe they’ll now realise it’s not all about them.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by rinks » Wed May 22, 2024 8:55 pm

Apart from the overall result, I very much want to see Lee Anderson kicked into oblivion. Even if that means a Tory getting Ashfield.


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