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Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:21 am
by Qikz
Gideon wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/19/sunak-to-cite-britains-sicknote-culture-in-bid-to-overhaul-fit-note-system

Super psyched that disabled people/people on benefits are back in the firing line, it feels almost nostalgic. As the grandchild of an immigrant I feel so special, having so much attention paid to me :wub:


"In relation to mental health, he will say he would “never dismiss or downplay the illnesses people have”, but also argue that there is a need to be “more honest about the risk of over-medicalising the everyday challenges and worries of life”

Ah yes, someone completely unrelated to the person who doesn't have any idea how the person feels or how mental illness affects people is the perfect person to decide whether or not they have a problem or not.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:22 am
by Victor Mildew
The leaving Tories:

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Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:27 am
by Moggy
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:
Moggy wrote:
rinks wrote:The number of MPs standing down at the next election has reached 100!

63 of them are rats leaving the Tory ship.


Shame it's not 650. ;)


Moggy confirming he wants to see 650 Reform UK MPs elected this year :shock:.


But that would mean no Lee Anderson :cry:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:29 am
by Tomous
"We're also going to test shifting the responsibility for assessment from GPs and giving it to specialist work and health professionals who have the dedicated time to provide an objective assessment of someone's ability to work and the tailored support they need to do so."

Mr Sunak was unable to provide any details about which "specialist professionals" would be given the job of issuing fit notes and whether they would have to be recruited.



Ah, so we're privatising sicknotes away from GPs and giving it to some venture set up by a Tory donor, gotcha.


The Tories have done it again! :wub:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:37 am
by Gideon
Qikz wrote:
Gideon wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/19/sunak-to-cite-britains-sicknote-culture-in-bid-to-overhaul-fit-note-system

Super psyched that disabled people/people on benefits are back in the firing line, it feels almost nostalgic. As the grandchild of an immigrant I feel so special, having so much attention paid to me :wub:


"In relation to mental health, he will say he would “never dismiss or downplay the illnesses people have”, but also argue that there is a need to be “more honest about the risk of over-medicalising the everyday challenges and worries of life”

Ah yes, someone completely unrelated to the person who doesn't have any idea how the person feels or how mental illness affects people is the perfect person to decide whether or not they have a problem or not.


They’ve been successfully doing this with Capita (and formerly ATOS) since Cameron. Don’t like what doctors are saying? Pay a private company to interpret limited evidence however you want them to. Getting gooseberry fool for people finding out you’re setting those companies quotas for the number of people you want removed from those benefits? Hide the quotas in ‘guidelines’.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:51 pm
by jimbojango
Gideon wrote:
Qikz wrote:
Gideon wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/19/sunak-to-cite-britains-sicknote-culture-in-bid-to-overhaul-fit-note-system

Super psyched that disabled people/people on benefits are back in the firing line, it feels almost nostalgic. As the grandchild of an immigrant I feel so special, having so much attention paid to me :wub:


"In relation to mental health, he will say he would “never dismiss or downplay the illnesses people have”, but also argue that there is a need to be “more honest about the risk of over-medicalising the everyday challenges and worries of life”

Ah yes, someone completely unrelated to the person who doesn't have any idea how the person feels or how mental illness affects people is the perfect person to decide whether or not they have a problem or not.


They’ve been successfully doing this with Capita (and formerly ATOS) since Cameron. Don’t like what doctors are saying? Pay a private company to interpret limited evidence however you want them to. Getting gooseberry fool for people finding out you’re setting those companies quotas for the number of people you want removed from those benefits? Hide the quotas in ‘guidelines’.


Useless approach, they force people into situations that exacerbate their illness, claim success (and the fat fee), then the people end up back at the NHS in a worse condition than before. Economic stupidity as it does more harm and consumes more resource, proposed by those who have only a simplistic view of a complex issue.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:17 pm
by Winckle
Tomous wrote:
"We're also going to test shifting the responsibility for assessment from GPs and giving it to specialist work and health professionals who have the dedicated time to provide an objective assessment of someone's ability to work and the tailored support they need to do so."

Mr Sunak was unable to provide any details about which "specialist professionals" would be given the job of issuing fit notes and whether they would have to be recruited.



Ah, so we're privatising sicknotes away from GPs and giving it to some venture set up by a Tory donor, gotcha.


The Tories have done it again! :wub:

At last the shareholders of KillTheSick plc will get a taste of success :wub:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:54 pm
by Squinty
More work for Crapita :wub:

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:00 pm
by Vermilion
It's always the same when the Tories run out of ideas, blame people with health conditions!

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:20 pm
by Victor Mildew
Vermilion wrote:It's always the same when the Tories run out of ideas, blame people with health conditions!


Or as the tories call them, "northerners".

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:49 pm
by Vermilion
Still, with Rishi and his cabinet of horrors likely heading for the exit door come the election, this policy will hopefully be binned anyway.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 3:00 pm
by Moggy
Vermilion wrote:Still, with Rishi and his cabinet of horrors likely heading for the exit door come the election, this policy will hopefully be binned anyway.


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Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 4:09 pm
by The Watching Artist
:lol:

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Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 5:02 pm
by Sprouty
The small percentage of people actually playing the system will continue to find a way to play the system. It's a failed government trying to blame anyone but themselves for their failings. Immigrants, student doctors, trans and the disabled have all taken their turn recently, which will make every day life harder for anyone in these groups, with those in society who hold prejudices feeling empowered to voice them.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:21 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR

twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1781251782254993556



Wow just wow

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 8:52 pm
by Dowbocop
"Your mental illness isn't fair on everyone else" - remember that now kids...

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:12 pm
by Godzilla
A political party who has based all their current policies on their angry elderly parents rants during Sunday lunch.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:40 pm
by Ironhide
Tories in being banana splits shocker.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:49 pm
by Vermilion
The whole policy reeks of Cameron tbh, I doubt Rishi is even capable of actually coming up with his own ideas.

It just feels like a repeat of the early 2010's (blame people with medical conditions for absolutely everything).

Perhaps before punishing people, maybe they should take a moment to try and figure out why so many folks have developed issues? It's not as if we've had a once in a generation pandemic which killed hundreds of thousands in the UK, and left countless more traumatised and unable to access support because of the degradation of the health service eh.

Re: Politics Thread 7: Dishy Rishi's Cabinet of Horrors

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2024 5:25 pm
by Moggy
Vermilion wrote:The whole policy reeks of Cameron tbh, I doubt Rishi is even capable of actually coming up with his own ideas.

It just feels like a repeat of the early 2010's (blame people with medical conditions for absolutely everything).

Perhaps before punishing people, maybe they should take a moment to try and figure out why so many folks have developed issues? It's not as if we've had a once in a generation pandemic which killed hundreds of thousands in the UK, and left countless more traumatised and unable to access support because of the degradation of the health service eh.


It shows just what a psychopath Cameron is. He had a severely disabled and sick son, but seems to have zero empathy for disabled/sick people.