Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24

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Who will you vote for at the next General Election?

Conservatives
8
7%
Labour
74
61%
SNP
6
5%
Lib Dems
7
6%
DUP
1
1%
Sinn Fein
1
1%
Plaid Cymru
2
2%
SDLP
0
No votes
Alba
0
No votes
Greens
18
15%
Alliance
0
No votes
Other
4
3%
 
Total votes: 121
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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Vermilion » Thu May 23, 2024 8:57 am

I think Labour stand the best chance of winning this time than they have for many years.

The last couple of elections were dominated by issues such as Brexit, whereas this time it will be very different.

I think also, we've reached that natural tipping point where the electorate decides that it's time for a change (as seen in 1997 and 2010).

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Moggy » Thu May 23, 2024 9:04 am

BID0 wrote:I'm not even sure why the Rwanda thing ever became a flagship policy. I don't think even Conservatives care that much about it, it's got to be such a minority of voters who would make their choice based purely on that policy.


The really funny thing is that the voters who care most about deporting immigrants won't be voting Tory, they'll be voting for Reform.

Rather than spend time convincing ordinary people that the Tories will do something for them, they've instead spent their time radicalising racists who are now so far gone that they see the Tories as a socialist party.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Rex Kramer » Thu May 23, 2024 9:13 am

They can only vote Reform if they stand candidates. I wonder if this election has come too soon for them to be able to run a big campaign.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Moggy » Thu May 23, 2024 9:16 am

Rex Kramer wrote:They can only vote Reform if they stand candidates. I wonder if this election has come too soon for them to be able to run a big campaign.


If they stand aside for the Tories again, it'll kill them.

While nobody expected a July election, we all knew it was going to happen this year. If Reform don't have enough candidates ready to go, then it'll just show them as even more amateur than anybody ever realised.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Cuttooth » Thu May 23, 2024 9:17 am

Moggy wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:They can only vote Reform if they stand candidates. I wonder if this election has come too soon for them to be able to run a big campaign.


If they stand aside for the Tories again, it'll kill them.

While nobody expected a July election, we all knew it was going to happen this year. If Reform don't have enough candidates ready to go, then it'll just show them as even more amateur than anybody ever realised.


They did have a few candidates to be fair. They just had to keep standing them down when it was inevitably revealed they were massive racists.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Garth » Thu May 23, 2024 9:27 am

Farage is out:

twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1793554758923588029


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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Moggy » Thu May 23, 2024 9:28 am

Garth wrote:

twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1793554758923588029



That leaves the field open for his greatest nemesis.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Preezy » Thu May 23, 2024 9:28 am

Imagine putting your trust in 50p Lee :dread:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Vermilion » Thu May 23, 2024 9:35 am

I wonder which seat Count Binface will be standing for.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Rex Kramer » Thu May 23, 2024 9:36 am

Preezy wrote:Imagine putting your trust in 50p Lee :dread:

He used to be only 30p Lee, bloody Liz Truss and her effect on inflation. :x

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Moggy » Thu May 23, 2024 9:36 am

Vermilion wrote:I wonder which seat Count Binface will be standing for.


I'd imagine it'll be Sunak's.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Neo Cortex » Thu May 23, 2024 9:42 am

Amazing to see Reform bastards like Farage standing down already.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Lex-Man » Thu May 23, 2024 9:45 am

He'll make more money grifting in America and I think there's a fairly good chance he wouldn't move the needle which would kind of undermine his reputation as an important figure in UK politics. Also the guy is super lazy.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Godzilla » Thu May 23, 2024 9:49 am

As much as the right wing press (basically all UK press) like to focus on immigration, Brexit, trans rights and small boats. The real issues that people vote on have all gotten significantly worse in the last 5 + years. NHS waiting times, specialist services like Children's mental health, council tax, council services, care sector, cost of food, cost of energy, quality of water and green spaces, anti social behavior and quality of life.

Starmer deserves a vote for the Energy policy alone. Imagine if that works and then we did it with water.... Then trains.... Then housing.

Most important things is everyone registers to vote, then actually goes out and does it.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu May 23, 2024 9:51 am

Rumours are Rishi called an election now as the belief is there will be major food and medicine shortages later this year due to a poor harvest (weather related) and new brexit Red tape causing major border issues with the EU which will be too late to delay or prevent by an new incoming government.

I wonder is the best we could hope for a labour/lib dem coalition government (rather than labour majority) where an EU referendum or customs union is part of the Lib Dem agreement for joining?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Tomous » Thu May 23, 2024 9:57 am

Lex-Man wrote:He'll make more money grifting in America and I think there's a fairly good chance he wouldn't move the needle which would kind of undermine his reputation as an important figure in UK politics. Also the guy is super lazy.



Plus he's not very good at winning seats in General Elections.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Tomous » Thu May 23, 2024 10:03 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I wonder is the best we could hope for a labour/lib dem coalition government (rather than labour majority) where an EU referendum or customs union is part of the Lib Dem agreement for joining?



This would also be the best chance of PR. Would be my preference for sure but a coalition government seems incredibly unlikely now given how far the Tories have sunk. Plus the SNP self destruction has given Labour even more seats.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Lex-Man » Thu May 23, 2024 10:08 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Rumours are Rishi called an election now as the belief is there will be major food and medicine shortages later this year due to a poor harvest (weather related) and new brexit Red tape causing major border issues with the EU which will be too late to delay or prevent by an new incoming government.

I wonder is the best we could hope for a labour/lib dem coalition government (rather than labour majority) where an EU referendum or customs union is part of the Lib Dem agreement for joining?


Nobodies really talking about it but I was looking for a nursery for my child a while ago and none of the nurseries had heard anything about the government funding they're meant to be getting. Apparently it's rated as amber/red by the government. If the whole thing blows up it's going to be a huge scandal so it's probably good to get out in front of it.

https://early-education.org.uk/nao-repo ... itlements/

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Tomous » Thu May 23, 2024 10:16 am

Lex-Man wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Rumours are Rishi called an election now as the belief is there will be major food and medicine shortages later this year due to a poor harvest (weather related) and new brexit Red tape causing major border issues with the EU which will be too late to delay or prevent by an new incoming government.

I wonder is the best we could hope for a labour/lib dem coalition government (rather than labour majority) where an EU referendum or customs union is part of the Lib Dem agreement for joining?


Nobodies really talking about it but I was looking for a nursery for my child a while ago and none of the nurseries had heard anything about the government funding they're meant to be getting. Apparently it's rated as amber/red by the government. If the whole thing blows up it's going to be a huge scandal so it's probably good to get out in front of it.

https://early-education.org.uk/nao-repo ... itlements/



This has never been a genuine policy. They basically said they were gonna do it because Labour were gonna do it.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 7: THINGS CAN ONLY GET BETTER - General Election 04/07/24
by Oblomov Boblomov » Thu May 23, 2024 10:27 am

Ian Duncan Smith on BBC News just now explaining that we must vote for Sunak because he's a badass who stands in the rain, compared with Starmer who is harbouring an army of Corbynistas :lol:.

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