Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon

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PostPolitics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Drumstick » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:07 pm

Welcome to the eighth version of this thread, now sponsored by the Labour Party.

What will Labour seek to achieve in their first year in power since 2010?

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Garth » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:10 pm

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Moggy » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:11 pm

Garth wrote:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Cuttooth » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:20 pm

Thank strawberry float for that!

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:22 pm

My body is ready to be Starmergeddoned, every night for the next decade :wub: :nod: :datass:

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by Garth » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:30 pm

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Garth » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:48 pm

Why the appointment of Hermer as attorney general is significant

The prime minister’s appointment of Richard Hermer KC as attorney general is one of the most legally significant of recent times.

Hermer was a member of Sir Keir Starmer’s old chambers, Doughty Street Chambers before moving to Matrix Chambers.

He has brought significant human rights cases against the government including representing Abu Zubaydah in his allegations of UK collusion in torture and representing Kenyans who sued the government for alleged torture in the colonial era.

His appointment also leaves Emily Thornberry who was shadow attorney general without a job.

It means a highly-respected lawyer has taken this important legal position, but he is one who has made a career of suing the government.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Peter Crisp » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:05 pm

I voted Lib Dem but I'm ok with a Labour government.

I'm super glad Mogg got the boot, the smug twat.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Sprouty » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:17 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:I voted Lib Dem but I'm ok with a Labour government.

I'm super glad Mogg got the boot, the smug twat.


Hear hear.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Moggy » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:26 pm

It's going to be interesting to see who emerges as the new Tory leader. Will they move towards the centre, or chase the Reform votes and head even further right?

They appear to have few options, ignoring my hatred of them all the only remaining Tories (that anybody has heard of) are are pretty useless. I don't see the likes of Badenoch, Hunt, Braverman winning an election. Unless they have some charismatic star we're mostly unaware of, I just can't see who could save them from a very long period in the wilderness.

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by Cuttooth » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:47 pm

Moggy wrote:It's going to be interesting to see who emerges as the new Tory leader. Will they move towards the centre, or chase the Reform votes and head even further right?

They appear to have few options, ignoring my hatred of them all the only remaining Tories (that anybody has heard of) are are pretty useless. I don't see the likes of Badenoch, Hunt, Braverman winning an election. Unless they have some charismatic star we're mostly unaware of, I just can't see who could save them from a very long period in the wilderness.

With Mordaunt losing her seat I think it clears the way for Tugendhat to be the sole choice of the "moderate" One Nation group of the party, while Braverman, Badenoch, and Cleverly fight to be the choice of the far right who want to move closer to Reform. I reckon once it gets to the final choice for MPs they'll stop the contest there so it doesn't get decided by the membership.

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by Moggy » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:52 pm

Cuttooth wrote:
Moggy wrote:It's going to be interesting to see who emerges as the new Tory leader. Will they move towards the centre, or chase the Reform votes and head even further right?

They appear to have few options, ignoring my hatred of them all the only remaining Tories (that anybody has heard of) are are pretty useless. I don't see the likes of Badenoch, Hunt, Braverman winning an election. Unless they have some charismatic star we're mostly unaware of, I just can't see who could save them from a very long period in the wilderness.

With Mordaunt losing her seat I think it clears the way for Tugendhat to be the sole choice of the "moderate" One Nation group of the party, while Braverman, Badenoch, and Cleverly fight to be the choice of the far right who want to move closer to Reform. I reckon once it gets to the final choice for MPs they'll stop the contest there so it doesn't get decided by the membership.


strawberry float, imagine if Cleverly gets it :lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Garth » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:57 pm

An intentional diplomatic shift for UK-Ireland relations

There are already signs of warming relations between the new government and Dublin, with expectations on both sides of a “reset”.

The British-Irish relationship was widely seen as fraying during the years after the Brexit referendum.

Sir Keir Starmer had a phone conversation with his Irish counterpart Simon Harris this evening - and Harris accepted an invitation to visit Downing Street in less than a fortnight’s time.

The Irish Foreign Minister (Tánaiste) Michéal Martin has also spoken to new Northern Ireland Secretary Hilary Benn.

Martin says they have agreed to work together on a “path forward” for issues relating to investigations into killings during the conflict in Northern Ireland.

Dublin had strongly disagreed with the Conservatives’ legislation to grant a conditional amnesty to suspects.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by DML » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:08 pm

My prediction for Tory leader is Priti Patel. Been through multiple governments, popular within the party and a touch more senior then some of the other candidates.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Tomous » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:13 pm

Patel is a good shout actually.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:24 pm

I think it will be Patel if she stands. Possibly the least toxic of their options but still far above the tolerable levels of toxicity :lol:

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Tomous » Fri Jul 05, 2024 11:25 pm

It says a lot about Braverman that she made Patel look palatable as home sec

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by Denster » Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:17 am

Moggy wrote:It's going to be interesting to see who emerges as the new Tory leader. Will they move towards the centre, or chase the Reform votes and head even further right?

They appear to have few options, ignoring my hatred of them all the only remaining Tories (that anybody has heard of) are are pretty useless. I don't see the likes of Badenoch, Hunt, Braverman winning an election. Unless they have some charismatic star we're mostly unaware of, I just can't see who could save them from a very long period in the wilderness.

The long period in the wilderness is a distinct possibility. The reverse/seat loss/support swing seen in this Election is unprecedented. Labour would have to be even worse or do even worse than the Tories did in the next five years to lose the next election. Conservative route back to power would be very similar to 97 - 2010. A slow rebuild back to gaining seats lost.

Took them 13 years to get re elected. 18 years before they won with a clear majority. And balanced against that is all the negatives will be fresh in Electorate memory. Tory arrogance and hubris from Boris onwards will not be forgotten or forgiven so easily. The Tories have to win back their support lost to Reform. Not easy. They then have to win the centre and centre right voters from Labour. Even more difficult.
Unless Labour fail dramatically across key areas - that majority should see them home across at least one more GE if not more.

The Tories have been ruthlessly cast aside by the electorate. In a seismic shift. They're now caught between a resurgent, powerful Labour Party and a very dangerous (to them) right wing alternative. Led by an astute opportunist (although complete scumbag) who will press his advantage.
Easily the most challenging and precarious time for the party.
Ever.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Vermilion » Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:38 am

Does anyone know when the state opening of parliament will be taking place? I always enjoy watching that.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 8: Starmergeddon
by Moggy » Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:44 am

Vermilion wrote:Does anyone know when the state opening of parliament will be taking place? I always enjoy watching that.


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