NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

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by Errkal » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:29 pm

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Pedz wrote:Well, the thread was created about Neogaf, the chat after a 30-iah pages has been about a completely different site. I guess I'm just going to constantly talk about different games in other games threads and when people ask why, I'm going to say "no point in more than one thread, innit?.


That's the idea of thread delineation though: the creation and use of different threads for different purposes. This thread started as a GAF discussion and changed naturally into something else. There's literally no-one talking about GAF any more so a separation would simply create a pointless dead thread and one that serves the same purpose as this one does now.

Just change the title.


As this is a new topic it should be in its own thread.


Ideally yes. But it wasn't a new thread, it was one that changed topics over time. A simple title change would suffice surely?


Simply, no.

If you are new or not part of the conversation you aren’t going to find the conversation if the thread has changed.

Also what if someone wants to talk about something the thread was talking about last week? They no can’t as it’s changed to something else. If when convo 2 happened it got moved to a new thread when viable you now have 2 conversations people can join into.

If you mega thread everything you limit the available topics to discuss as you only have what the thread is in that moment.

It’s a great way to isolate and alienate people, make it harder to increase engagement and make the place seem very slow.

However, this is a change of topic and technically a derailment. The conversation was being had here: t:meta-discussion-what-are-our-issues-and-how-do-we-better-structure-solutions?start=40 So probably best to continue there to work out a solution that works for all / most.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Pedz » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:31 pm

Seriously, why do you even care if it's seperated? Seems like moaning for the sake of it.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Tafdolphin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:32 pm

Errkal wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Errkal wrote:
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Pedz wrote:Well, the thread was created about Neogaf, the chat after a 30-iah pages has been about a completely different site. I guess I'm just going to constantly talk about different games in other games threads and when people ask why, I'm going to say "no point in more than one thread, innit?.


That's the idea of thread delineation though: the creation and use of different threads for different purposes. This thread started as a GAF discussion and changed naturally into something else. There's literally no-one talking about GAF any more so a separation would simply create a pointless dead thread and one that serves the same purpose as this one does now.

Just change the title.


As this is a new topic it should be in its own thread.


Ideally yes. But it wasn't a new thread, it was one that changed topics over time. A simple title change would suffice surely?


Simply, no.

If you are new or not part of the conversation you aren’t going to find the conversation if the thread has changed.

Also what if someone wants to talk about something the thread was talking about last week? They no can’t as it’s changed to something else. If when convo 2 happened it got moved to a new thread when viable you now have 2 conversations people can join into.

If you mega thread everything you limit the available topics to discuss as you only have what the thread is in that moment.

It’s a great way to isolate and alienate people, make it harder to increase engagement and make the place seem very slow.


I'm not sure this is a response to what I said is it? How would changing the thread title affect any of this?

I'm talking about this thread specifically now, having agreed with you that specific topics generally should have specific threads.

EDIT: Maybe we should separate this chat into a Chat Separation thread?

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Pedz » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:34 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Pedz wrote:Well, the thread was created about Neogaf, the chat after a 30-iah pages has been about a completely different site. I guess I'm just going to constantly talk about different games in other games threads and when people ask why, I'm going to say "no point in more than one thread, innit?.


That's the idea of thread delineation though: the creation and use of different threads for different purposes. This thread started as a GAF discussion and changed naturally into something else. There's literally no-one talking about GAF any more so a separation would simply create a pointless dead thread and one that serves the same purpose as this one does now.

Just change the title.


As this is a new topic it should be in its own thread.


Ideally yes. But it wasn't a new thread, it was one that changed topics over time. A simple title change would suffice surely?


Simply, no.

If you are new or not part of the conversation you aren’t going to find the conversation if the thread has changed.

Also what if someone wants to talk about something the thread was talking about last week? They no can’t as it’s changed to something else. If when convo 2 happened it got moved to a new thread when viable you now have 2 conversations people can join into.

If you mega thread everything you limit the available topics to discuss as you only have what the thread is in that moment.

It’s a great way to isolate and alienate people, make it harder to increase engagement and make the place seem very slow.


I'm not sure this is a response to what I said is it? How would changing the thread title affect any of this?

I'm talking about this thread specifically now, having agreed with you that specific topics generally should have specific threads.

EDIT: Maybe we should separate this chat into a Chat Separation thread?


Seems sensible.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Tafdolphin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:37 pm

tbh I'm still a little bitter about the Cyberpunk thread.

Aaaaanyway.

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by Green Gecko » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:58 pm

God guys stop arguing, boring as strawberry float. Sure we should split the thread, I just mean this topic shouldn't be buried. Taf, it isn't creating "another pointless dead thread" to create a new topic about a new topic. We're getting too comfortable here.

I'll split the thread out at said page unless somebody's prepared to make a petition about it and post it to me.

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by Tafdolphin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:34 pm

(Separating a thread creates two threads, one for the current discussion, one for the original, the latter of which no-one is discussing as it's news from 2 years ago. This one will die off immediately.)

'sall I'm saying

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Errkal » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:39 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:(Separating a thread creates two threads, one for the current discussion, one for the original, the latter of which no-one is discussing as it's news from 2 years ago. This one will die off immediately.)


In this instance yes because it should have split like 18 months ago, but normally no as both convos are currently happening and this allows both conversations to occur and not have the original get killed off.

Also, in a years time you can look back and see the original chat and not be on page 30 to page 70 of some thread that is now called something else.

Really really don’t see how this is such an issue.

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by Moggy » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:44 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:(Separating a thread creates two threads, one for the current discussion, one for the original, the latter of which no-one is discussing as it's news from 2 years ago. This one will die off immediately.)

'sall I'm saying


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by Karl_ » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:47 pm

I think in general we're going to transition to having more small threads.

It probably won't have a huge practical impact on this thread. I think splitting a separate "Evilore / NeoGAF is bad" thread is a slightly better way to do it than renaming it all because 1. it's more semantic in principle and 2. I like having a thread around somewhere that shames Evilore.

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by Tafdolphin » Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:53 pm

Karl_ wrote:I think in general we're going to transition to having more small threads.

It probably won't have a huge practical impact on this thread. I think splitting a separate "Evilore / NeoGAF is bad" thread is a slightly better way to do it than renaming it all because 1. it's more semantic in principle and 2. I like having a thread around somewhere that shames Evilore.


This I can get behind.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Squinty » Mon Jul 22, 2019 8:23 am

Some Resetera commentators have this bizarre trait of taking everything literally. It's like they can't process humour properly.

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by Green Gecko » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:56 pm

Autism.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Ad7 » Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:19 pm

Not that strange

NASA fed moon rocks to cockroaches to test for lunar microbes

But this reply

Do we have a cockroach defence force here at ERA?


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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Lagamorph » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:37 am

Does anyone else like the smell of farts?

I do. Like, it has never bothered me and rarely do 2 ever smell the same. It is always interesting getting a whiff of what people dish out.

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by Jenuall » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:41 am

Liking the smell of your own brand is one thing, but that's taking it a bit too far.

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by Mafro » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:14 am

What is it with Epic Games Store threads over there causing so much gooseberry fool? :dread:

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by Lagamorph » Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:39 am

Mafro wrote:What is it with Epic Games Store threads over there causing so much gooseberry fool? :dread:

I honestly don't see the issue people have with the EGS. They take a smaller cut than Steam which means more money for devs. I don't see the issue with Epic paying for exclusives (especially when the majority are only timed exclusives) especially when it's a smaller developer.
People scream and cry about EGS exclusivity and yet they haven't had a problem with Steam having a massive exclusive library for over a decade now simply by virtue of it being the only game in town for a long time.
Hell, EGS are literally giving away free games every single week at least until the end of this year.

What's that? You need another launcher installed? So strawberry floating what? None of the people making that complaint seemed to complain about needing the Xbox App for Windows Gamepass. If your machine is so gooseberry fool it can't handle running an app like the EGS then it's going to be too gooseberry fool to play modern games decently too.

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by Somebody Else's Problem » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:00 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Mafro wrote:What is it with Epic Games Store threads over there causing so much gooseberry fool? :dread:

I honestly don't see the issue people have with the EGS. They take a smaller cut than Steam which means more money for devs. I don't see the issue with Epic paying for exclusives (especially when the majority are only timed exclusives) especially when it's a smaller developer.
People scream and cry about EGS exclusivity and yet they haven't had a problem with Steam having a massive exclusive library for over a decade now simply by virtue of it being the only game in town for a long time.
Hell, EGS are literally giving away free games every single week at least until the end of this year.

What's that? You need another launcher installed? So strawberry floating what? None of the people making that complaint seemed to complain about needing the Xbox App for Windows Gamepass. If your machine is so gooseberry fool it can't handle running an app like the EGS then it's going to be too gooseberry fool to play modern games decently too.


I wonder what the venn diagram of "people who claim PC gaming is better because you aren't tied to one digital store" and "people who bitch about games being on EGS and not Steam" looks like. I suspect a circle.

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PostRe: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched
by Tafdolphin » Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:04 pm

Moaning about EGS is the worst. It's just so strawberry floating boring.

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