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Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:22 am
by Banjo
Porn is pretty racist.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:32 am
by Jenuall
Porn is basically a microcosm of the problems with society - it's racist, misogynistic, full of arseholes and generally ends with you getting strawberry floated over by some kind of labourer.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:38 am
by That
YouTube is pretty racist as well. The community is full of racists (see: PewDiePie, the alt-right pipeline), and there is baked-in racism even on the level of "the algorithm". In the past Google's algorithms have done things like misclassifying black people as gorillas, and we know the recommendations algorithm reinforces and amplifies controversial, racist content.

@Qikz: It's okay to be fatigued with political discussions but I don't think those examples are ridiculous, it sounds to me more like you're just tired of it. It's totally normal but I don't think it's a reflection on Era?

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:42 am
by Moggy
Jenuall wrote:Porn is basically a microcosm of the problems with society - it's racist, misogynistic, full of arseholes and generally ends with you getting strawberry floated over by some kind of labourer.


When you put it like that, it doesn’t sound like a bad thing. :datass:

I think it was a segment on the Daily Show a few years ago, but they were looking at racism in porn. It was actually far worse than you would imagine, black porn actors face pretty horrific discrimination in the industry. White people and Asian girls do ok, everyone else gets strawberry floated and not in a sexy way.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:14 pm
by Pedz
Asian girls are the best.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 6:58 am
by Rightey
Qikz wrote:I'm more left wing than most people on resetera but it's just tiresome turning every little thing into a political discussion. Sometimes things are not a certain way due to institutionalised issues.


This is doubly annoying when you have to deal with these people in real life as part of your job. :dread:

The best advice I can give to anyone who looks at these issues is just apply Hanlon's Razor first https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor If something can be explained by stupidity, that's probably the cause.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:35 am
by Squinty
Rightey wrote:
Qikz wrote:I'm more left wing than most people on resetera but it's just tiresome turning every little thing into a political discussion. Sometimes things are not a certain way due to institutionalised issues.


This is doubly annoying when you have to deal with these people in real life as part of your job. :dread:


There's a girl I know through a mate who does stuff like this constantly. I actively try to avoid ever seeing her. She annoys the living gooseberry fool out of me and is a complete strawberry floating buzzkill.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:14 am
by Qikz
Karl_ wrote:YouTube is pretty racist as well. The community is full of racists (see: PewDiePie, the alt-right pipeline), and there is baked-in racism even on the level of "the algorithm". In the past Google's algorithms have done things like misclassifying black people as gorillas, and we know the recommendations algorithm reinforces and amplifies controversial, racist content.

@Qikz: It's okay to be fatigued with political discussions but I don't think those examples are ridiculous, it sounds to me more like you're just tired of it. It's totally normal but I don't think it's a reflection on Era?


The youtube one also was partially that the left wing part of youtube is too white. That's the bit that got me, how has being left wing got anything to do with race now?

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:50 pm
by That
Qikz wrote:
Karl_ wrote:YouTube is pretty racist as well. The community is full of racists (see: PewDiePie, the alt-right pipeline), and there is baked-in racism even on the level of "the algorithm". In the past Google's algorithms have done things like misclassifying black people as gorillas, and we know the recommendations algorithm reinforces and amplifies controversial, racist content.

@Qikz: It's okay to be fatigued with political discussions but I don't think those examples are ridiculous, it sounds to me more like you're just tired of it. It's totally normal but I don't think it's a reflection on Era?


The youtube one also was partially that the left wing part of youtube is too white. That's the bit that got me, how has being left wing got anything to do with race now?


So I don't know the context (link?) but if, let's say, all the popular Breadtubers are white, then that might be interesting for various reasons. You might ask, why aren't there more minority Breadtubers? Are we missing important perspectives because of that? I think that kind of discussion might be worthwhile.

Of course I agree the basic statement "left-wing YouTube is too white!" doesn't really mean anything without discussion or context so if that was the level of discourse presented then I can see why it would be frustrating.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:55 pm
by Vermilion
I have no idea what a 'Breadtuber' is.

Do they have anything in common with ToastedTeacakeTubers? (they're not just bready, they're quite curranty too).

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:02 pm
by That
It's the name for left-wing vloggers and video-essayists on YouTube. References to "bread" in those communities are due to "the bread book" The Conquest of Bread by the anarchocommunist theorist Peter Kropotkin. There is a subreddit on which the community for these videos congregates: https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:08 pm
by Vermilion
Karl_ wrote:It's the name for left-wing vloggers and video-essayists on YouTube. References to "bread" in those communities are due to "the bread book" The Conquest of Bread by the anarchocommunist theorist Peter Kropotkin. There is a subreddit on which the community for these videos congregates: https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/


Sounds like the sort who could do with getting out a bit more.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:10 pm
by That
Vermilion wrote:
Karl_ wrote:It's the name for left-wing vloggers and video-essayists on YouTube. References to "bread" in those communities are due to "the bread book" The Conquest of Bread by the anarchocommunist theorist Peter Kropotkin. There is a subreddit on which the community for these videos congregates: https://www.reddit.com/r/BreadTube/


Sounds like the sort who could do with getting out a bit more.


That's really interesting, why do you think that?

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:12 pm
by Jenuall
Vermilion wrote:I have no idea what a 'Breadtuber' is.

Do they have anything in common with ToastedTeacakeTubers? (they're not just bready, they're quite curranty too).

Ah, you're a WaffleTuber man!

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:18 pm
by OrangeRKN
Presumably Kingsmill would get renamed to Collectivelyownedmill if they had their way?

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:20 pm
by That
I would certainly hope so!

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:22 pm
by Moggy
OrangeRKN wrote:Presumably Kingsmill would get renamed to Collectivelyownedmill if they had their way?


Should be Queensmill, girls can make bread as well.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:35 pm
by Mafro
Best of Both Sides.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:47 pm
by OrangeRKN
Mafro wrote:Best of Both Sides.


Kingsmill 52/48

It's actually an overwhelming majority of white bread

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:51 pm
by Cuttooth
Mafro wrote:Best of Both Sides.

:lol: