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Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:12 am
by Mafro

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:51 am
by McCoughlan
Preezy wrote:
OP wrote:You are free to presume MJ's guilt and label him accordingly.

But you're not free to presume his innocence and label him accordingly? :lol: :fp:

I think he was a total paedo, but I wouldn't want anyone banned for saying otherwise.


Why is this even a discussion that's being had in 2019? MJ died ten years ago. Let. It. Go.
People who still harp on about his "guilt" annoy the heck out of me.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:45 am
by Preezy
LightWanderer wrote:
Preezy wrote:
OP wrote:You are free to presume MJ's guilt and label him accordingly.

But you're not free to presume his innocence and label him accordingly? :lol: :fp:

I think he was a total paedo, but I wouldn't want anyone banned for saying otherwise.


Why is this even a discussion that's being had in 2019? MJ died ten years ago. Let. It. Go.
People who still harp on about his "guilt" annoy the heck out of me.

Not sure, but maybe because his victims are still alive and living with the horror of what he did to them, while his family profits from work he shouldn't have been able to create because he should have been in prison for being a child rapist? Could be that but again who knows.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:02 am
by Dual


I didn't know there were so many other raptors on this forum
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Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:38 am
by ITSMILNER
Do we have any raptors on GR? Come forward, don’t be shy.


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Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:23 am
by Preezy
People are so strawberry floating weird.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 1:00 pm
by Jazzem
For all the slack Era gets, and I'm certainly not going to defend every ban, silly post or warning on there (and the Etika situation was incredibly disappointing, though at least the ensuing thread saw a lot of reflective, empathetic discussion), I'm at least glad there's a large gaming forum willing to weed out bigotry like they are.

You see a lot of women and trans people posting on there, often with anecdotes they don't go elsewhere due to poor moderation. Not bad going considering it's governed by volunteer moderators, more than you can say for large conglomerate social media who handle their immense responsibility shockingly badly.

It's for that reason I'm not always that keen on outright dunking on them as an outright police state, even with some examples of overreaction it feels too close to alt right shitheads moaning that shitty unempathetic sentiments carry consequences. Certainly empowers them to see a forum going for more inclusivity, even admittedly with not always perfect results, getting lambasted.

Also, quick aside but major props to their mental health thread and the folks within who help each other out during dark times.

Also...are we due a title change on this thread now? Not sure we need to keep the NeoGAF sexual assualt bit there...

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:47 pm
by Monkey Man
Should start a new thread called "You won't believe what Resetera have done now".

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2019 6:19 pm
by Mafro

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 6:00 pm
by Green Gecko
Jazzem wrote:Also...are we due a title change on this thread now? Not sure we need to keep the NeoGAF sexual assualt bit there...

Personally I'd say no. As another forum admin who hasn't done anything to marr and ruin lives like that, EvilLord deserves his shitstain to permeate the Internet for eternity as there is no other recourse for his actions, and he certainly doesn't deserve the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's made operating as a shitlord for all that time, posing in the press as a super cool dude at E3 for example, while making very derogatory comments toward women on the side. It's an aspect of macho culture that absolutely needs to be held to account, even more so within online tech/gaming communities. If you have a high profile and you still say and do stupid gooseberry fool there are consequences for that.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2019 7:40 pm
by Jazzem
Green Gecko wrote:
Jazzem wrote:Also...are we due a title change on this thread now? Not sure we need to keep the NeoGAF sexual assualt bit there...

Personally I'd say no. As another forum admin who hasn't done anything to marr and ruin lives like that, EvilLord deserves his shitstain to permeate the Internet for eternity as there is no other recourse for his actions, and he certainly doesn't deserve the hundreds of thousands of dollars he's made operating as a shitlord for all that time, posing in the press as a super cool dude at E3 for example, while making very derogatory comments toward women on the side. It's an aspect of macho culture that absolutely needs to be held to account, even more so within online tech/gaming communities. If you have a high profile and you still say and do stupid gooseberry fool there are consequences for that.


Very fair point, I do get infuriated at how easily folks like Louis CK get back into the limelight with no reprecussions so I'm with you on that.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:08 pm
by Green Gecko
May have come over overly strong on that, but, yeah. I think the difference is he's a personal beneficiary, essentially a business owner, rather than an employee for example. No one should make a living on that scale from fostering a culture where they have openly condoned exploiting women.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:23 pm
by jawafour
I agree, guys, although I do wonder if perhaps this thread has gone from being about NeoGAF to being about ResetEra. I guess this one should really be about GAF, with a new one created for Era? If I understand correctly, Era doesn't have any background of "sexual assault" and it seems a little unfair to kind of link it to that here.

But, hey, I know that the paths are windy and complicated for both sites.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:29 pm
by Errkal
jawafour wrote:I agree, guys, although I do wonder if perhaps this thread has gone from being about NeoGAF to being about ResetEra. I guess this one should really be about GAF, with a new one created for Era? If I understand correctly, Era doesn't have any background of "sexual assault" and it seems a little unfair to kind of link it to that here.

But, hey, I know that the paths are windy and complicated for both sites.


Yeah this thread is basically about the dumb gooseberry fool people post of restera. Really a new thread should be made for that and the posts moved over.

This thread should basically end at the point people started posted resetera dumb posts and just be about gafs downfall and evilores cuntery.

It seems to swap to resetera chat around page 37, I guess around there is where the new thread should have take over as a “resetera” chat thread leaving this gaf stuff.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:12 pm
by Tafdolphin
I genuinely don't get this thread separation nonsense at all.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:14 pm
by Pedz
Well, the thread was created about Neogaf, the chat after a 30-iah pages has been about a completely different site. I guess I'm just going to constantly talk about different games in other games threads and when people ask why, I'm going to say "no point in more than one thread, innit?.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:20 pm
by Errkal
Tafdolphin wrote:I genuinely don't get this thread separation nonsense at all.

What’s not to get.

In a thread about pizza you talk about pizza, if someone wants to talk about burgers you make a thread about burgers, not talk about it in the pizza thread pretending that the pizza thread was actually a food thread all along.

Having 1 topic to 1 thread makes it easier for people to follow a discussion, or find a discussion they may wish to join in.

Mega threads suck.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:22 pm
by Tafdolphin
Pedz wrote:Well, the thread was created about Neogaf, the chat after a 30-iah pages has been about a completely different site. I guess I'm just going to constantly talk about different games in other games threads and when people ask why, I'm going to say "no point in more than one thread, innit?.


That's the idea of thread delineation though: the creation and use of different threads for different purposes. This thread started as a GAF discussion and changed naturally into something else. There's literally no-one talking about GAF any more so a separation would simply create a pointless dead thread and one that serves the same purpose as this one does now.

Just change the title. Or close this one and start a new one.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:23 pm
by Errkal
Tafdolphin wrote:
Pedz wrote:Well, the thread was created about Neogaf, the chat after a 30-iah pages has been about a completely different site. I guess I'm just going to constantly talk about different games in other games threads and when people ask why, I'm going to say "no point in more than one thread, innit?.


That's the idea of thread delineation though: the creation and use of different threads for different purposes. This thread started as a GAF discussion and changed naturally into something else. There's literally no-one talking about GAF any more so a separation would simply create a pointless dead thread and one that serves the same purpose as this one does now.

Just change the title.


As this is a new topic it should be in its own thread.

Re: NeoGAF owner accused of sexual assault - spin-off site Resetera launched

Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:25 pm
by Tafdolphin
Errkal wrote:
Tafdolphin wrote:
Pedz wrote:Well, the thread was created about Neogaf, the chat after a 30-iah pages has been about a completely different site. I guess I'm just going to constantly talk about different games in other games threads and when people ask why, I'm going to say "no point in more than one thread, innit?.


That's the idea of thread delineation though: the creation and use of different threads for different purposes. This thread started as a GAF discussion and changed naturally into something else. There's literally no-one talking about GAF any more so a separation would simply create a pointless dead thread and one that serves the same purpose as this one does now.

Just change the title.


As this is a new topic it should be in its own thread.


Ideally yes. But it wasn't a new thread, it was one that changed topics over time. A simple title change would suffice surely?